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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Moving Reply with quote

(If I lived in Seoul, I would have titled this thread Seoul Movements. In fact, I'm tempted to move there again to do just that. Or start a blog with that title. It's just a really nifty title for something. God help me.)

It'll be 2 years come the end of April that I, the Wife, and later the little girl, have lived in our cozy little Hobbit hole in Bundang. Wow! How time flies!

Actually, no it doesn't. Not counting the TV and the baby's potty, we've hardly bought any real furniture since we moved here two years ago. No new refrigerator, no new beds. No comfy chairs. It's like living in a medieval dungeon sometimes. Only with a computer and PS2. And no one puts me on a rack and stretches my limbs until I'm all rubbery inside. Well, rarely.

Today we spent nearly 4 hours looking at apartments. I hate realators with the very soul of my being. This is a new sentiment. I used to throw them candy and balloons when I passed them on the street. Not anymore.

The first place we looked at, an apartment, was OK, except that the interior was done in the same vomit-colored green as our current home, only on a much larger scale. Vomit-colored table legs, vomit-colored cabinets and cupboards. Vomit-colored tiles on the front AND back "verandas". I got the message.

The second place would have been a step up if the building wasn't directly across from a high school, next to a church, and above a ���屹 "restaurant".

Me: "That stairways pretty dirty. All cigarette butts and pieces of food and stuff. Anything to be done there?"

Realator: "Heh. That's because the building's owner doesn't live anywhere near here."

Ah, just like the time I was 16 and my folks went away for the weekend. Good times. Too bad I hung up my beer bong.

Undeterred by my sour face, the same realator showed us a place that scared me -- I mean it really scared me.

"It's on the 2nd floor, but there are people there at the moment (?), so I'll just show you the apartment on the 3rd floor (?), which is exactly the same as the one below. (?!)"

Confused

So we checked it out. Not bad, save for the ceiling fan which hung low enough for me to hit my head on.

And the bedroom bathroom. Like walking into hell I tell you.

Opening it was like looking down a narrow tunnel. It ran parallel to the room, no windows, red tiled floor, with an abject toilet at the end. That's it, nothing else. I'm seriously going to have nightmares tonight.

We visited a couple of other places in another 'hood which were comparitively better, but it's late and I'm frightened just imagining that bathroom, so I may or may not post again about the hilarity that ensued there. Plus, I gotta get up early and sign for the officetel we looked at yesterday. Sure, the utilities are through the f-ing roof, but at least I won't have trouble sleeping, afraid I'll be eaten by something abominable.

Sparkles*_*
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Moving Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Plus, I gotta get up early and sign for the officetel we looked at yesterday. Sure, the utilities are through the f-ing roof, but at least I won't have trouble sleeping, afraid I'll be eaten by something abominable.

You're moving from a place in Bundang to....another place in Bundang? And the officetel you mentioned -- is that going to be the new place?

You were asking advice a while back on a home theatre for when you moved into a new apartment. Done any more thinking on that front? (or still lying low? Smile )

Anyway, get some photos up when you can and let's have a look.

Good luck on the move.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean real estate agents are total feckheads. They have no idea of giving the customer what they want. Just get rid of what they have. Estate agents in general are feckheads. They're like lawyers. They create an expensive job for themselves to do. I paid an estate agent here 350,000 won for 2 hours work!!

People should boycott estate agents altogether and simply buy and sell their own houses.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:

You were asking advice a while back on a home theatre for when you moved into a new apartment. Done any more thinking on that front? (or still lying low? Smile )


At the risk of being castrated, I'm going to have to execute my plan very slowly.

Plus, after the move, I don't think I'll be able to afford it. Crying or Very sad

Sparkles*_*
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Moving Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:

You were asking advice a while back on a home theatre for when you moved into a new apartment. Done any more thinking on that front? (or still lying low? Smile )


At the risk of being castrated, I'm going to have to execute my plan very slowly.

Plus, after the move, I don't think I'll be able to afford it. Crying or Very sad

Sparkles*_*


Ah yes. Call me old-school, but I also tend to favour those home-theatre layouts and arrangements that avoid the common pitfalls and compromises like home-castration. Those are so often unnecessary, annoyingly lethal in some cases, and they simply require more post-op cleaning and disinfecting than most of us are willing to endure.

Just to clarify, the officetel you mentioned signing a contract for -- that's going to be home? or that's going to be an office for work, and you're still in house-hunting mode?
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: Moving Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
Just to clarify, the officetel you mentioned signing a contract for -- that's going to be home? or that's going to be an office for work, and you're still in house-hunting mode?


It's for home, mostly. And that's apparently a problem, because the owner wants to rent it out only to a company (he gets a nifty tax write off that way -- or something along those lines). Damn heartbreaking, because the rent was LOW (in some cases 500,000 won less than other offices of the same size in the same building).

We spent 5 hours at the realator's today, trying to broker something. No dice. I'm heartbroken. But we will end up renting a place there. There's is now no question about that.

Sparkles*_*
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
People should boycott estate agents altogether and simply buy and sell their own houses.

Indeed, many are doing just that, Eamo, although from my own experience it's not so much a boycott or backlash against Coreana realtorus, (Class Reptilia) as it is a love of money and the desire to save millions of won worth of it by cutting out the middleman.

Buying/Selling
People can find the home they want -- via the Internet, the flea-market classifieds, schmoozing, hoofing around, asking a fortune-teller, what-evahh -- download a boilerplate house-sale contract off the Net, pay a paralegal a few mahn-won to stand witness and enter additional clauses if any, and it's all done in an few hours' time. (Yes, there are standard processing fees and taxes and notifications, but those are there regardless of using/not using a realtor.) And, you've probably saved yourself a month's gross salary, if not more.

Renting
Renters & landlords can also sidestep the realtor, but obviously the savings there are more modest. I've always used realtors when I was hunting for a place to rent, whether for myself or for friends. However, I've never relied exclusively on realtors, and only in three instances have I ever done a rental contract through realtors. In all the other cases, I found the places by word-of-mouth, flea-market classifieds, or on the Internet, and used the standard rental contract that any paralegal will have on file. Total cost: 50,000 won? Maybe a bit more.
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