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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: Kids who are too cute to discipline |
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| Do you have these? Kindie kids who run all over you and girls age 10-13 who treat you like a trained monkey/failed entertainer/punching bag/candie dispenser? Are there any long-term strategies that don't involve getting or pretending to get angry? |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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You can spin the kindy kids around until they get too dizzy to annoying you 
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have perfected the art of action/reaction. ie. if you act up in my class then damn right are their going to be consquences.
If it's particular individuals are acting up they are sent to the back of the room, if they are still acting up they are sent out. After class they get to spend their break time in the staff room doing hearts. They miss break time and if their homeroom teacher sees them then they are in big trouble (half the fun of this punishment is seeing the students squirm to avoid catching their teachers attention).
Classes have five chances to behave. If they earn five Xs then they have to put their arms up in the air for five seconds and be quiet. If someone talks it goes back to five.
At ten they have to crouch on their desks for ten seconds (note this is really painful) and be quiet. If they talk then it's back to ten.
Always keep consistent discpline. And let the kids know what's happening (hence the five X thing). My boys also know that if they swear in english or korean then it's an automatic red card. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| crazylemongirl wrote: |
I have perfected the art of action/reaction. ie. if you act up in my class then damn right are their going to be consquences.
If it's particular individuals are acting up they are sent to the back of the room, if they are still acting up they are sent out. After class they get to spend their break time in the staff room doing hearts. They miss break time and if their homeroom teacher sees them then they are in big trouble (half the fun of this punishment is seeing the students squirm to avoid catching their teachers attention).
Classes have five chances to behave. If they earn five Xs then they have to put their arms up in the air for five seconds and be quiet. If someone talks it goes back to five.
At ten they have to crouch on their desks for ten seconds (note this is really painful) and be quiet. If they talk then it's back to ten.
Always keep consistent discpline. And let the kids know what's happening (hence the five X thing). My boys also know that if they swear in english or korean then it's an automatic red card. |
You see, if I could be arsed to be a hard-nose at the beginning things would probably go a lot better in the long run, but instead I invariably end up playing the sucker. While I have no trouble manhandling a moronic middle-school boy out of the class room, when a kindie kid runs up and grabs my hat and then throws it across the room, or when a 12yo girl yells at me to shut up and then says ever so sweetly "your hair is very crazy, your face is very ugly, and you are very fat" (I'm 5'11", 155lbs, so presumably I can disregard the rest), and it's the best English sentence anyone has come up with all class, I just can't help but shrug and laugh. I think that getting a digital camera, videotaping appalling behaviour, and then threatening to show their parents might be the best approach. I would, however, love to see what would happen if some of them tried the same shit on a male Korean teacher at a public school. |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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"your hair is very crazy, your face is very ugly, and you are very fat" |
... don't take it personally YBS but that is hilarious 
I've had kids say things to me in class before, I'd consider myself pretty hard-arsed, but sometimes you just have to let it slide. It's difficult sometimes - especially with the younger girls - to differentiate between them being downright offensive and them just being forthright.
Koreans by their nature aren't the most tactful of people at the best of times ... if it was a guy though ... BANG !!!!! |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:27 am Post subject: cute kids |
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I think that usually the cutest kids get treated the best I TRY to treat all of them the same. (I said I TRY).
I had a student who was rude all the time,and finally told him to get out. He would not budge, I said "Get out" at least a dozen times, and he just stared at me, while the other kids stared at us both. So what did I do? I said "O.K., you sit there" And I took the other kids out,and left him in the room. So far 2 weeks have passed, and he has been pretty good. But who knows what tomorrow will bring.. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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"your hair is very crazy, your face is very ugly, and you are very fat" |
... don't take it personally YBS but that is hilarious
I've had kids say things to me in class before, I'd consider myself pretty hard-arsed, but sometimes you just have to let it slide. It's difficult sometimes - especially with the younger girls - to differentiate between them being downright offensive and them just being forthright.
Koreans by their nature aren't the most tactful of people at the best of times ... if it was a guy though ... BANG !!!!! |
I thought it was hilarious, too - and she was speaking the best English I had heard all day. And given the fact that I've been trying to put on weight since I got here, the last bit, had it been remotely sincere, would have been quite complementary.
At least with this kid I have some options if she gets too much more out of hand as a) her father speaks some English, b) I know where her father works, and c) her father is my doctor. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:36 am Post subject: Re: cute kids |
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| teachingld2004 wrote: |
I think that usually the cutest kids get treated the best I TRY to treat all of them the same. (I said I TRY).
I had a student who was rude all the time,and finally told him to get out. He would not budge, I said "Get out" at least a dozen times, and he just stared at me, while the other kids stared at us both. So what did I do? I said "O.K., you sit there" And I took the other kids out,and left him in the room. So far 2 weeks have passed, and he has been pretty good. But who knows what tomorrow will bring.. |
I don't think there are any kids I couldn't manhandle out of the classroom if I had to, but with some I just wouldn't have the heart. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:59 am Post subject: Re: cute kids |
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| teachingld2004 wrote: |
I had a student who was rude all the time,and finally told him to get out. He would not budge, I said "Get out" at least a dozen times, and he just stared at me, while the other kids stared at us both. So what did I do? I said "O.K., you sit there" And I took the other kids out,and left him in the room. So far 2 weeks have passed, and he has been pretty good. But who knows what tomorrow will bring.
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That's where being 182cm and 93kg and going to the gym every day comes in handy. If a student refused to go outside on their own, I'd usually just pick up their chair or desk (with them in it) and stick it outside.
I don't like to physically manhandle the students, as it opens me up to too many repercussions.
As to the OP, no kid is too cute for me to discipline if they're acting up; though it may break my heart to see pretty little Hyun Ju crying after I give her a verbal dressing down. |
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