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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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 Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:13 am Post subject: Problems with getting your diploma back? |
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After receiving my visa, I never had my diploma returned to me. I emailed the recruiter about five days ago and haven't heard back from him. Is this usually a problem? Any hypotheses about where my diploma might be?
Thanks, Qinella |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Yea, demand it right away. Its OK to follow up and they might be testing you to see how much abuse you'll take. Ask for it immediately or at the next business day. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Okay I'll give them a call tomorrow instead of relying on email. Do you think they have it, or does the government still have it? |
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wwidgirl
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:17 am Post subject: don't worry too much |
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Don't worry too much, the cost of replacing a diploma is usually relatively inexpensive (like $30 I think).
I hope you get it back soon though. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| Okay I'll give them a call tomorrow instead of relying on email. Do you think they have it, or does the government still have it? |
The government sent the diploma back to your recruiter in the same envelope as your blue letter. It's probably sitting in a drawer somewhere in his office.
Be quick about it because as soon as your recruiter gets his money from your school, he will forget all about your existence. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Was it Haanrecruit?
They either lost or stole mine (a guy named Andrew).
Please tell everyone who the recruiting agency is, and give their number so we can all call them and hound them.
GET IT BACK! |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Dulouz is correct on all counts. Get it back pronto and don't accept side-winder spiels. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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*Never* give them the original. You can get a copy notorised very cheaply at any consulate.
I'd look into getting a new one from your Uni. |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you already know this, but the reason why recruiters (and employers) attempt to hold onto degrees is to keep you from leaving their school. They are wise to the fact that you will need this again when you try to get a new job, and they don't want to make it easy for you to leave.
I have also wondered if sometimes they use/alter them in some illegal manner for illegal teachers who need a diploma.
Get it back pronto.
I'd go as far as tell you school you won't work until it's returned. Then maybe they won't pay the recruiter their cut. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ye Bum Suk wrote
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| *Never* give them the original. You can get a copy notorised very cheaply at any consulate |
In spades! Never give up your original. It may only cost 30$ to get a new one but why on earth would you throw away 30$?
Also to get a new degree/diploma you often have to request it in person. Kind of hard to do while you are overseas. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Grotto wrote: |
Ye Bum Suk wrote
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| *Never* give them the original. You can get a copy notorised very cheaply at any consulate |
In spades! Never give up your original. It may only cost 30$ to get a new one but why on earth would you throw away 30$?
Also to get a new degree/diploma you often have to request it in person. Kind of hard to do while you are overseas. |
Actually, at my university it's $8 for a copy of the diploma. I ordered three copies several months ago and never received them. Univ. of South Florida has notoriously thick red tape. And my recruiter told me a copy won't work for a visa, that it must be original, and the Korean Consulate says the same thing. That's not true?
Anyway I no longer have the phone # of the recruiter, but I'll try emailing him again. Fyi, the recruiter is Koreana Teachers Club, or PnF Consulting. They were okay, but always slow to respond and never fully answered all of my questions, and misled me about where I would be teaching (they said Daejon, it's actually Shintanjin). |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Call them and tell them that you want your original diploma back. It's served it's purpose and you may need to produce again for others since the situation at this time is a bit crappy for all English teachers.
If they give you the run-around or are slow then threaten to call the police and have them charged with theft. It's your property and they don't need it anymore. They have no right to keep it, so that's theft.
Don't roll over on it and waiting for your university to replace it when you may be asked to produce it again for inspection is not an option.
The Korean Consulate needs to see the original to have it notarized, that's why a copy from your university won't do. It probably has no official seal and won't do (they are big on the parchment and don't take the word of the registrar for some reason).
Cheers |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| INTO Korea "lost" my degree last year. The dudes name is Jung. Was a pain in my arse |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I a now make it VERY apparent to the school and recruiter, if involved, that I expect my degree returned to me before I begin any work with that school.
No degree. No work. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Just in case it hasn't sunk in yet, you don't need to send your original degree to Korea. Like YBS said, you just take it down to the local consulate, along with your passport, driver's liscense, and a sealed transcript (get 2 of these). You give them a couple of bucks, they make a certified copy of your degree for you, you send that certified copy as part of your documentation package to the employer in Korea. I just did that very thing last week.
If an employer asks you to send your degree, you don't even need to ask them if a consulate-certified copy is OK. It is OK.
My uni charges $40 and takes 6 to 8 weeks to get a replacement printed. They send this complicated, high tech task out to some contractor somewhere. 
You can bet I will never send my original to anyone. |
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