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Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald ???
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Who was Lee Harvey Oswald ???
A lone nut assassin
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Patsy for a wider conspiracy
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OTHER ( explain )
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald ??? Reply with quote



Video Documentary

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/oswald/view/
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

X (V.O.)
Money is at stake. Big money. A
hundred billion. The Kennedy brothers
target voting districts for defense
dollars. They give TFX fighter
contracts only to the counties that
are going to make a difference in
'64. These people fight back. Their
way. One day another call is made...

In a Pentagon office, a man in civilian clothing is on the
phone, his back to the screen. This is Mr. Y, X's superior
officer. Shadows pervade the room. An unshuttered window
overlooks the Potomac River and the White House.

X (V.O.)
...maybe to somebody like my superior
who's been running the "Mongoose"
program out of Florida and who has
no love for Kennedy.

VOICE ON PHONE
Bill, we're going. We need your
help.

X (V.O.)
Everything's cellurized. No one has
said "he must die," there's been no
vote, there's nothing on paper,
there's no one to blame. It's as
old as the Crucifixion: the Mafia
firing squad, one blank, no one's
guilty because everyone in the Power
Structure who knows anything has a
plausible deniability. There are no
compromising connections except at
the most secret point. But what's
paramount is that it must succeed.
No matter how many die, how much it
costs, the perpetrators must be on
the winning side and never subject
to prosecution for anything by anyone.
That is a coup d'etat.

Y
(into phone)
When?

VOICE ON PHONE
In the fall. Probably in the south.
We want you to come up with a plan...

X
He's done it before. Other countries.
Lumumba in the Congo, Trujillo, the
Dominican Republic, he's working on
Castro. No big deal. In September,
Kennedy announces the Texas trip.
At that moment, second Oswalds start
popping up all over Dallas where
they have the mayor and the cops in
their pocket. Y flies in the
assassins, maybe from the special
camp we keep outside Athens, Greece -
pros, maybe some locals, Cubans,
Maria hire, separate teams. Does it
really matter who shot from what
rooftop? Part of the scenery. The
assassins by now are dead or well
paid and long gone...


JIM
Any chance of one of them confessing
someday?

X
...don't think so. When they start
to drool, they get rid of 'em. These
guys are proud of what they did.
They did Dealey Plaza! They took
out the President of the United
States! That's entertainment! And
they served their country doing it.


You never ask a spook a question.
No point. He'll never give you a
straight answer. General Y still
thinks of himself of the handsome
young warrior who loved this country
but loved the concept of war more.

JIM
His name?

X
Does it matter? Another technician.
But an interesting thing - he was
there that day in Dealey Plaza. You
know how I know?
(Jim shakes his head)
That picture of yours. The hoboes...
you never looked deep enough...

FLASHBACK TO: one of the hobo pictures. Next to the freight
entrance of the Book Depository, Y, in a dark suit, is
nonchalantly walking past the hoboes, his back to us. The
camera closes in on Y.

X (V.O.)
I knew the man 20 years. That's
him. The way he walked... arms at
his side, military, the stoop, the
haircut, the twisted left hand, the
large class ring. What was he doing
there? If anyone had asked him,
he'd probably say "protection" but
I'll tell you I think he was giving
some kind of "okay" signal to those
hoboes - they're about to get booked
and he's telling 'em it's gonna be
okay, they're covered. And in fact
they were - you never heard of them
again.

JIM
...some story... the whole thing.
It's like it never happened.

X
It never did.
(he smiles tartly)


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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was just a left wing nutcase who knew how to shoot a rifle and got lucky. Anyway, those shots were not that hard. Perhaps you have far too many Oliver Stone fictions.
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who Lee?? Hell, last thing I remember of that boy, he went up the Nung River in a Navy P.B.R. -- re-established commo with Colonel Kurtz, then terminated his command.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
He was just a left wing nutcase who knew how to shoot a rifle and got lucky. Anyway, those shots were not that hard. Perhaps you have far too many Oliver Stone fictions.

Left wing nutcase? Didn't he have some involvement with the Committee to Free Cuba, or somesuch?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
He was just a left wing nutcase who knew how to shoot a rifle and got lucky. Anyway, those shots were not that hard. Perhaps you have far too many Oliver Stone fictions.


Rolling Eyes
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
W.T.Carl wrote:
He was just a left wing nutcase who knew how to shoot a rifle and got lucky. Anyway, those shots were not that hard. Perhaps you have far too many Oliver Stone fictions.

Left wing nutcase? Didn't he have some involvement with the Committee to Free Cuba, or somesuch?

Free play for Cuba.

Did anyone watch the video documentary ??? Quite fascinating. A LOT of intrigue.

Botom line is LHO was a pretty complicated guy with a lot of bizarre underworld / para-military connexions clear across the "political spectrum".

Too bad he never managed to get his day in court.
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was the FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA group--and those folks WERE left wing nut cases. And if it such a paradise, why are so many people risking life and prison to get out?
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
It was the FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA group--and those folks WERE left wing nut cases.


Yah, that sounds about right Carl: Fair Play for Cuba.

Thing is, if you watch the documentary you'll learn Oswald was the ONLY member. Oswald stood on the sidewalks of downtown New Orleans handing out leaflets, and then debated on a local TV progam, all the while "those folks" ( i.e. other left-wing nut cases ) didn't even exist. It was essentially a classic "FALSE FLAG" org. set on stirring the pot.
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you had better check your facts. The Fair Play for Cuba group was not just one person. I had a few profs who were members when I was in college.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
I think you had better check your facts. The Fair Play for Cuba group was not just one person. I had a few profs who were members when I was in college.


Facts checked Carl ...

Thank you. I stand corrected.

In 1962, he tried to assassinate an anti-Communist retired general, Edwin Walker. He then moved to New Orleans, where he got involved with pro-Cuba activism as a one-man member of a local Fair Play for Cuba Committee. He was visible enough to have been filmed on the streets, handing out leaflets, and be recorded in a radio debate. The films and audio tapes still exist.

... the impression i get from reading this is that The Fair Play for Cuba Committee was indeed a national organization and Oswald, unsolicited, set out to become a one-man New Orleans chapter.

Oswald spent $22.73 on 1000 flyers, 500 membership applications, and 300 membership cards and had Marina sign the name "A.J. Hidell" as chapter president on one of the cards.

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:6dqC2TmgceEJ:www.lewrockwell.com/north/north231.html+fair+play+for+cuba+definition&hl=en

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=fair+play+cuba+definition
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, a left wing nut case who could shoot and got lucky. But then again, it wasn't that hard of a shot.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bumping this thread today in memory of a murdered U.S. President & the all too many still unanswered questions.

As one assasination researcher put it: "The secret service set him up, CIA & MOB took him out & FBI covered it up".

To the justice which is served in the afterlife, and beyond.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the things you post are just odd and sometimes entertaining in a twisted way. This one is offensive. Very definitely offensive.
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deessell



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was an MK Ultra Victim.
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