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Seoul Reaps What It Sowed; NOW PROTESTS at U.S. Bases
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Seoul Reaps What It Sowed; NOW PROTESTS at U.S. Bases Reply with quote

Seoul Is Beginning to Reap What It Sowed
Lt. Gen. Charles C. Campbell, the chief of staff of the U.S. Forces Korea, said on Friday that 1,000 of the current 12,000 Korean employees of the USFK will be laid off and forces' support contracts cut by 20 percent over the next two years. Campbell also suggested relocating some key military equipment reserved here for an emergency from South Korea.
Chosun Ilbo (April 1, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504010037.html

Korea Wants to Have Its Cake and Eat It, Too
Korea will maintain an alliance under which America will fight along with us when we are attacked on the one hand, but on the other play a stabilizing role in which Korea takes a neutral stance when the U.S. becomes a party in a conflict elsewhere in Northeast Asia. From Korea's perspective, this may be a highly desirable state of affairs, of course -- all the advantages of an alliance with none of the drawbacks. But no ally can accept such conditions. From the U.S. perspective, South Korea is abrogating the alliance.
Chosun Ilbo (March 31, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200503/200503310035.html


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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul is in a bind.

If only they actually knew what they were talking about.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be a wonderful harvest. Laughing
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They, USFK...Bush...need to go one more step....
pull out of korea completely! All the military leave! And you can bet one thing...90% of the active duty military would LOVE it if korea was not a duty station!!!
It is NOT a choice assignment. Koreans make it that way. Japan, Europe and elsewhere are.
The powers to be are always trying to make korea the best place to be stationed...but koreans screw it up. I just wish the powers to be would talk straight and tell the truth instead of trying to sugar coat everything.
But...they don't want to offend the koreans.
Pull out...let the north come down and let the south and north battle it out.
Only then will koreans realize that the world is a two way street...we all need to get along.
But...if that were to happen...koreans would be crying and screaming for the allies to return.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you see the short-track skating race?
A vulgar country, fucking U.S.A.
Are you so happy over a gold medal?
A nasty country, fucking U.S.A.
Such as you are, can you claim that the U.S.A. is a nation of justice?
Why on earth don't we say what we have to?
Are we slaves of a colonial nation?
Now we will shout: "No to the U.S.A."
A wretched thief, fucking U.S.A. that stole our Olympic gold medal
A wicked robber, fucking U.S.A. that tries to rob everything by force




Did you hear Bush's reckless words?
A shameless country, fucking U.S.A.
It makes war threats to the north as well as intervention into the south
A country of gangsters, fucking U.S.A.
Is the U.S.A. still a beautiful country?
Is the north still an "enemy" to be killed?
How much more do you want to endure?
It's time to shout: "Yankee, go home!"
You dirty Yankees, wait and see
We will reunify the country with the independent force of the Korean nation
We will build a dignified country, a reunified country

Don't forget the blood-stained history of Korea!
You, author of Korea's division, fucking U.S.A.
Don't forget the Nogun-ri massacre of civilians!
You, murderer, fucking U.S.A.



Why has the U.S has stayed this long!!!!????


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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard that song, is that the translation?

I can tell from the AFN channel, where they are offering more money to military to choose to stay in Korea another year or more, that it is not where they want to be, but money bonuses sound appealing.
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JackSarang



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:

It is NOT a choice assignment. Koreans make it that way. Japan, Europe and elsewhere are.


For US Army GI's how is Korea NOT a choice assignment? The bases in Japan are primarily comprised of Airmen and Marines. In Germany its Airmen and an Armoured division.

What does that leave the average US army infantryman? Garrison duty in the states or hell on earth in Afghanistan or Iraq.
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Blind Willie



Joined: 05 May 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmm.... Bile-y tasting thread. With just a hint of "I hate myself for continuing to work here".

How do you guys find the time to keep coming up with these new flavors?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blind Willie wrote:
Mmm.... Bile-y tasting thread. With just a hint of "I hate myself for continuing to work here".

How do you guys find the time to keep coming up with these new flavors?


What? Considering most posters are either not U.S. or unidentifiable, I find this funny.

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But seriously, I like rapier's post. I work here for other callings, not some mission to save South Korea from North Korea, and that someone would consider such a thing so patriotic seems a farce to me. When you've had a kid shout to you F****** whatever country you're from, maybe it makes more sense. It's not pride, it's simple co-existence.
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Blind Willie



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's almost as if the US didnt factor into my comment.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blind Willie wrote:
It's almost as if the US didnt factor into my comment.


Probably because it doesn't. But in all seriousness, I'm just going off of a bunch of Canadian folk over kalbi who think they know what's right and wrong in the world of America. Forgive my drunken stupor, I suppose?
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

English teachers in Korea face wrath of an angry nation
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/news/article/353.html

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fret not.

As long as North Korea remains in Bush's so-called axis of evil, Bush will and his chums will remain.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blind Willie wrote:
Mmm.... Bile-y tasting thread. With just a hint of "I hate myself for continuing to work here".

How do you guys find the time to keep coming up with these new flavors?


How did you come up with this conclusion?

A poster cut and pasted the lyrics of a song written by a Korean, recorded by Koreans, bought by Koreans and sung happily by Koreans a few short years ago.

It represents a common sentiment about the USA shared by many Koreans.

This thread is a taste of the truth, Blind Willie and you don't like that kind of thing. Keep your head in the sand where it belongs.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean USFK workers threaten strike
Unionized Korean workers at U.S. military bases yesterday threatened to go on strike against the U.S. authorities' plan to cut nearly 10 percent of Korean civilian employees. Kang In-sik, the head of the USFK Korean Employees Union, also called on the Korean government to increase its financial contribution for maintaining United States Forces Korea, saying that the layoffs will undermine USFK combat readiness against North Korean threats.

"We will fight until the end. Actually we are already taking steps to do that," Kang said in an interview with The Korea Herald. If the union goes ahead with the plan, it will be the first-ever walkout by Korean employees at USFK bases. Kang criticized the South Korean government for not taking into consideration what they do for the USFK combat mission. "The government cut the costs related to us, as it is easy to cut and show off what it did to the public," Kang said.
By Joo Sang-min, Korea Herald (April 3, 2005)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2005/04/04/200504040003.asp
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