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Anyone ever get a university job with only a BA?
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kittyfye



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
Location: South of Seoul..way south

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:01 am    Post subject: Anyone ever get a university job with only a BA? Reply with quote

My present contract is up in August. I'd like to try for a uni position, though I only have a BA and two and half years classroom experience (one and a half years of which has been here in Korea).

Can anyone share their experience, hope, and strength on securing university positions with only a BA and teaching experience?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've said it before and I'll again. Anybody can get a university job if you approach it the right way (see this).

I'm coming to the end of my fourth year teaching in universities and I only have a BA (although I'm working toward my MA). I think the majority of university teachers I know only have a BA.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

Having the CELTA, or some kind of recognized certificate helps, as does knowing people on the staff.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. I did. Ditto on the qualifications, but I think the biggest thing is being in the right place at the right time. Good luck.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's what I'm going to be trying to do. Getting the first application package together this week, editing the resume, all that jazz.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, two of my good friends did. One in Cheonnan and another living near the DMZ.

The one in Cheonnan just had 1 year of experience (and nothing else) where the other spent around 3 beforehand.

Both cases, it was just a matter of being proactive about getting a uni job.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
I've said it before and I'll again. Anybody can get a university job if you approach it the right way (see this).

I'm coming to the end of my fourth year teaching in universities and I only have a BA (although I'm working toward my MA). I think the majority of university teachers I know only have a BA.


None of them do privates.

Privates are illegal.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah me too.. I'm on my second university and half way through my 5th year of university teaching. Will complete my M.A. in June.
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JacktheCat



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also doesn't hurt if you're young and good looking.

Back in Jan and Feb I applied to several universities to see what was out there and was told by one that I was too old, and told by two others that I didn't have "the right look."

I have 5 years teaching experience; 2 years in Korea. and one at a university in China. And I have a CELTA, but no Master's. Apparently this is not enough to overcome my age and looks.


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dutchman



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone ever get a university job with only a BA? Reply with quote

kittyfye wrote:
My present contract is up in August. I'd like to try for a uni position, though I only have a BA and two and half years classroom experience (one and a half years of which has been here in Korea).

Can anyone share their experience, hope, and strength on securing university positions with only a BA and teaching experience?


During the five years I was teaching at my uni there were 9 new hires. Only two of them were hired through advertising. The rest were all friends of current teachers. Of the 13-14 coworkers I had in that five year period only one had an MA before being hired.

Networking and connections will get you in. A good word from a teacher already on staff will carry more weight than an MA.
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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JacktheCat wrote:
It also doesn't hurt if you're young and good looking.

Back in Jan and Feb I applied to several universities to see what was out there and was told by one that I was too old, and told by two others that I didn't have "the right look."


Guess it depends on the U. Over 1/2 our teachers are in our 40's-50's, oldest being 58, and none of us has the "look". But it probably doesn't hurt that our dept chair is older as well. I agree with previous posters that timing and inside contacts are very important factors.
As far as Master degrees go, it's about 50-50 but they are asking for any new teachers to have one.
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dzeisons



Joined: 14 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think that if you managed to survive a year in korea teaching, be that kids or adults, most universities in korea will take you. for better jobs i'd imagine they would take into account nationality, whether you have an English major, years of experience, and whether you have a TESOL cert. this provided that you're not a complete galah in the interview.
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whereisjay



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one just the other day...

I have only a Batchers degree, (management)

no English language certificates
no Masters degree
no TESOL
no CELTA

I do have, a great understanding of Korea, have lived here and taught for 3 years at good schools,

I do have great references (written and verbal) from my two schools.

I do have experience teaching a wide variety of students

completly it is up to how you sell your self!

Anyone can get a university job if they have what it takes to do what the university needs and you can sell your self.

It is also a matter of what university,

granted i am at a top university in seoul which is in a very specalised field of tertiary education in korea, so I was able to sell my skills to match their school, (although the school is not a management school and is in a completely different field)
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I have only a Batchers degree, (management)


Maybe you should have majored in Spelling, instead.

Whip me up a batch, while you're at it, Mr. Top School in Seoul in a Tertiary Field.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I have only a Batchers degree, (management)


Hot-dog-gonnit! Where's can me gets me one o' dem dair Batcher's Degrees???
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