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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Korean teachers marrying students after they graduate Reply with quote

I am curious what your take on this would be....

I have two Korean co-workers at my high school who are married to former students (I know one for sure, but I heard there's another). Also, I have another co-worker who is planning to marry his girlfriend, who is also a former student. She is now 24 (he says) and he is in his 30s. I've bumped into them together around town. He's kept the relationship a semi-secret for years, although he told me right away, and I was also told by a department head.

Public/private school workers, is this common at your school?

Technically, after a student leaves a school and becomes "legal age," they could be "available" to date anyone they choose. If it were in the USA, however, I am sure it would raise some eyebrows! I'm sure it would here, too!

When thinking in terms of America, immediately my mind thinks that the teacher would lose their job. But then again, I wonder if that would actually happen or not. I'd imagine it could bring on a heck of a lawsuit if a teacher was fired without proof that they were in a relationship before the student graduated.

My girlfriend (much older --hah) says that relationships like this are not uncommon. Apparently!

What are your random thoughts on this issue?
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's pretty kinky and naughty
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've heard that it is somewhat common in Japan.
I've never heard of that happening in Canada. I"m sure it has happened, but i've never heard of it. Anybody else heard of it?
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teacher at my former highschool was engaged to an ex-student. Then he was recently charged with statuatory rape of grade 11 student. Apparently the police discovered that he had been secretly romancing students for the past 10 years (while I was still there).

Last I heard, the guy killed himself a few weeks before the trial was to start.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ulsanchris wrote:
i've heard that it is somewhat common in Japan.
I've never heard of that happening in Canada. I"m sure it has happened, but i've never heard of it. Anybody else heard of it?


My high school in Windsor, Ontario there were two teachers who married former students. One guy was actually carrying on an open affair with her while he was married (this was 1984 and the chick was a total madonna wannabe). She was always staying late to help him clean erasers. One Christmas assembly, the students put on a little play that made fun of this teacher's open affair with the madonna wannabe. It was pretty funny BUT the problem was the guy's wife was in the audience. She stormed out and later divorced him.

These kinds of plays were subsequently banned at future Christmas assemblies.

I guess she sort of knew something funny was going on with her husband and the child but ignored it like a proper wife. But when she found out it was an open secret at school, she blew her top.

My Korean friend, her sister married her high school teacher. Sounded pretty creepy. She graduated and her teacher showed up at her house and asked her father if he could marry her. The father was like "err, come back when she's 21."

So he left.

And came back 3 years later, right on the mark. So the father said "okay". She figured it was her duty to obey her father and married him.

The guy proceeded to rack up a debt of $500,000. They have three kids and she had to take a job to help pay down his huge debt.
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Adam J



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been teaching high school in California for the past four years. There have been teachers at both schools I've worked at that are married to former students.

The "open" ones are the guys who married their girls 20 years ago and are still married to them. Doesn't seem to be a big deal if it happened a long time ago, but I'm not aware of anyone who has recently married a student.

The beginning of this year a math teacher (youngish, good looking guy) was forced to resign because of his relationships with 18 year old senior girls from his previous year's classes. Not illegal, but definately unprofessional and a good way to get fired. Supposedly he was sleeping with girls currently enrolled in his classes.

In one of my teaching credential college classes the professor asked if anyone in class was married to their former teacher and five of the fifteen women in class raised their hands. They were all 30+ years old.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it were in the USA, however, I am sure it would raise some eyebrows! I'm sure it would here, too!

When thinking in terms of America, immediately my mind thinks that the teacher would lose their job. But then again, I wonder if that would actually happen or not. I'd imagine it could bring on a heck of a lawsuit if a teacher was fired without proof that they were in a relationship before the student graduated.



I know at least a dozen teachers who married their former students. I don't remember ever hearing anyone complain or otherwise disapprove.

Except in one case. At a high school I worked at, the band teacher was boinking a student in the music practice room--apparantly during school. Anyway, he divorced his wife and married the boinkee soon after she graduated.
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a gym teacher who was there for one year, but mysteriously disappeared. Not sure this is why, but he it was rumored that he was having an affair with the girl who happened to be our class president. Sounds sort of like a movie I saw recently, but it happened. I figure administration found out and quietly got rid of the guy. I saw the class president around a few years ago, and I really wish I'd asked her about it.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The year before I began high school, a student graduated and married one of her teachers. (I had actually known about it, but not known just what I knew, for some time.) Sure, everyone talked about it, but there's nothing illegal about it, and she was hired as yearbook adviser the next year, while he was still working there.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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If it were in the USA, however, I am sure it would raise some eyebrows! I'm sure it would here, too!

When thinking in terms of America, immediately my mind thinks that the teacher would lose their job. But then again, I wonder if that would actually happen or not. I'd imagine it could bring on a heck of a lawsuit if a teacher was fired without proof that they were in a relationship before the student graduated.



I know at least a dozen teachers who married their former students. I don't remember ever hearing anyone complain or otherwise disapprove.

Except in one case. At a high school I worked at, the band teacher was boinking a student in the music practice room--apparantly during school. Anyway, he divorced his wife and married the boinkee soon after she graduated.


I always thought it was funny that parents get really worried about homosexuals teaching, like they're going to recruit the captain of the football team. But no one ever seems to question the wisdom of putting a bored 40-year-old married man in a classroom with 16 year old girls who view him as sophisticated and wise.

Few women I know in North America got through high school without unwanted sexual attention from at least one male teacher. There was one math teacher that would openly leer at girls in the hall. It was very disturbing because you're talking to him, you're 16, and you sort of look to check out some girl's ass and you see him checking out her ass as well. You're like "hey, wait, she's my age, I'm allowed to check out her ass! You're 40! And a teacher! You can't check out the asses of 16 year old girls! Pervert!"
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No L



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cousin ran away with her teacher on her 18th birthday. It was a week after graduation. They had been seeing each other her whole senior year. He was married too. They eventually got married and are still together, but I find it a creepy idea to date your students, former or not.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Few women I know in North America got through high school without unwanted sexual attention from at least one male teacher.


This road runs both directions. Denise R, 17, was rumored to be cute. No male ever knew if she was or not because the eyes never got as far as her face. She had an endearing habit of rubbing her endowments against your arm as she asked questions. Thank the lord for podiums to hide behind till things calmed down. Embarassed

On the Monday after prom I was taking role at the beginning of class. I remember stopping and asking the kids to talk a little more quietly because I didn't want to know who rented rooms at the Best Western for the after the prom party. I told them it made me uncomfortable to hear sex stories about my students because I tried not to think of them in that way.

I think your point about parents limiting their concern to gays and footballs stars to be well taken.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the concern some parents have about gays in the school has virtually nothing to do with them worrying the gay guy would be after their children... and more to do with them worrying about the unwanted influence they gay person might have on an impressionable young person.

In other words, they don't want a gay child, and don't want to condone gay behavior. If they appear to condone it, then the child might think it's "OK" behavior to explore.

The fact is that few parents want their child to gain any sort of interest in the Hershey highway. They view that behavior as wrong/immoral, and sick.

Sure, it's fun to laugh at the gay guys in movies. They're funny to watch on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy," but virutally no parents WANT their child to go that route.
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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teachers marrying students after they graduate




Hot!

Why wait?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
I think the concern some parents have about gays in the school has virtually nothing to do with them worrying the gay guy would be after their children... and more to do with them worrying about the unwanted influence they gay person might have on an impressionable young person.

In other words, they don't want a gay child, and don't want to condone gay behavior. If they appear to condone it, then the child might think it's "OK" behavior to explore.

The fact is that few parents want their child to gain any sort of interest in the Hershey highway. They view that behavior as wrong/immoral, and sick.

So it's ok for lesbians to teach then? Personally what a teacher gets up to in their own is no concern of the parents as long as it's not something illegal.

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Sure, it's fun to laugh at the gay guys in movies. They're funny to watch on "*beep* Eye for the Straight Guy," but virutally no parents WANT their child to go that route.


My parents are totally disappoitned that I'm not a lesbian. They would have had the ulimtate dinner party story anecdote.
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