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EFL Law Warning - What do you think?

 
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Teufelswacht



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:36 am    Post subject: EFL Law Warning - What do you think? Reply with quote

Saw this while reading EFL-Law's website. What do you think?

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WARNING.
Following years of unprecedented growth in foreign teachers being illegally dismissed, defrauded by Korean Hagwon owners, and the persistent failure of the Korean authorities to help foreigners who have been unfairly treated, we advise anyone thinking of working in Korea to absolutely avoid working for any private school with less than 20 employees. As such, we have discontinued the Jobs Section.
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wild sphere



Joined: 11 Dec 2004
Location: i might as well be on mars 'cause that's how far away i feel from you.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's been a long time coming, but well worth the wait. Rolling Eyes
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

That's pretty much all of them.

Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off. And we have 15 or so employees.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off.


How do you know?
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: EFL Law Warning - What do you think? Reply with quote

Teufelswacht wrote:
Saw this while reading EFL-Law's website. What do you think?

Quote:
WARNING.
Following years of unprecedented growth in foreign teachers being illegally dismissed, defrauded by Korean Hagwon owners, and the persistent failure of the Korean authorities to help foreigners who have been unfairly treated, we advise anyone thinking of working in Korea to absolutely avoid working for any private school with less than 20 employees. As such, we have discontinued the Jobs Section.


As I was skimming that the first time, I thought for a second they were going tell people to stay away from Korea, period. Surprised

I never visited that website... so, what was their "Jobs Section" that they've now discontinued, and what's the connection there? Was it a listing of jobs exclusively at places that hired fewer than 20 employees? Confused Weird.

Also, why would this be seen as a good thing that was worth waiting for? Seems to me that it shows the industry can't regulate itself, the government won't bother, and it's more of a minefield for foreigners today than it ever was. Seems like things are going in reverse, no?
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smart move. Means keeping away from mom and pop operations.

The wave, if it ever gets going will be for a more corporate system and organization to the ESL industry in Korea.
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Teufelswacht



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFL LAW started a jobs section where employers could post help wanted ads. EFL LAW advertised, if I remember correctly, that they would stand behind, (offer free legal services, etc.) the employee for the duration of their contract if the person was hired through their site. They were basically putting their name behind the employers who advertised on their job site. I think they might have gotten burned or something by someone posting a job advertisement. Don't know, just conjecture on my part.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off.


How do you know?


I have talked to the last several teachers. At least, they haven't ripped anyone off in the last year and a half.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Real Reality wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off.


How do you know?


I have talked to the last several teachers. At least, they haven't ripped anyone off in the last year and a half.


That is a long history.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think for someone sitting at home in Hot Rocks, Australia or Weed Patch, Arkansas or anywhere else, this is