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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:36 am Post subject: EFL Law Warning - What do you think? |
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Saw this while reading EFL-Law's website. What do you think?
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WARNING.
Following years of unprecedented growth in foreign teachers being illegally dismissed, defrauded by Korean Hagwon owners, and the persistent failure of the Korean authorities to help foreigners who have been unfairly treated, we advise anyone thinking of working in Korea to absolutely avoid working for any private school with less than 20 employees. As such, we have discontinued the Jobs Section. |
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wild sphere

Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Location: i might as well be on mars 'cause that's how far away i feel from you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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it's been a long time coming, but well worth the wait.  |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: yes |
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That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off. And we have 15 or so employees. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off. |
How do you know? |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: Re: EFL Law Warning - What do you think? |
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| Teufelswacht wrote: |
Saw this while reading EFL-Law's website. What do you think?
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WARNING.
Following years of unprecedented growth in foreign teachers being illegally dismissed, defrauded by Korean Hagwon owners, and the persistent failure of the Korean authorities to help foreigners who have been unfairly treated, we advise anyone thinking of working in Korea to absolutely avoid working for any private school with less than 20 employees. As such, we have discontinued the Jobs Section. |
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As I was skimming that the first time, I thought for a second they were going tell people to stay away from Korea, period.
I never visited that website... so, what was their "Jobs Section" that they've now discontinued, and what's the connection there? Was it a listing of jobs exclusively at places that hired fewer than 20 employees? Weird.
Also, why would this be seen as a good thing that was worth waiting for? Seems to me that it shows the industry can't regulate itself, the government won't bother, and it's more of a minefield for foreigners today than it ever was. Seems like things are going in reverse, no? |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Smart move. Means keeping away from mom and pop operations.
The wave, if it ever gets going will be for a more corporate system and organization to the ESL industry in Korea. |
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| EFL LAW started a jobs section where employers could post help wanted ads. EFL LAW advertised, if I remember correctly, that they would stand behind, (offer free legal services, etc.) the employee for the duration of their contract if the person was hired through their site. They were basically putting their name behind the employers who advertised on their job site. I think they might have gotten burned or something by someone posting a job advertisement. Don't know, just conjecture on my part. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off. |
How do you know? |
I have talked to the last several teachers. At least, they haven't ripped anyone off in the last year and a half. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
That's pretty much all of them.
Anyways, it's not fair to the legitimately good schools out there. My school is not so great, but they don't rip anyone off. |
How do you know? |
I have talked to the last several teachers. At least, they haven't ripped anyone off in the last year and a half. |
That is a long history. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| I think for someone sitting at home in Hot Rocks, Australia or Weed Patch, Arkansas or anywhere else, this is | |