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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:05 am Post subject: "he receive a life sentence" |
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How would you explain to someone how this is wrong?
"he receive a life sentence"
I know its wrong.. and explained it would have to be '-ed' or a 'will receive'.. but having a tough time explaining the rule on when this can be used in the present tense.. if it can at all. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Ummm, it has to be "receives" when referring to "he." It would be ok, if it were preceded by a subordinate clause like: "An offender convicted of murder receives a life sentence." Either that or its someone who receives a life sentence every day of their life. That's a hard life. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Just so.
Present simple (receives) is used for habitual things or reported speech. I doubt the this is habitual, but your example is perfect for reported speech. |
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man of the year

Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Location: SeoulCity... Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:26 am Post subject: Re: "he receive a life sentence" |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
How would you explain to someone how this is wrong? |
How would you explain to someone that this sentence is grammatically incorrect?
In your case, get an English teacher to do it. |
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zappadelta

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:47 am Post subject: |
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This can't be a serious post |
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Pyongshin Sangja

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes it can |
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Kimchieluver

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Gee, I sometimes want to take a log of every person who criticizes a post for not being grammatically correct. And then when they make a typo or a mistake on a forum, well.....
I don't know.
I beleieve it's like this:
He
SHe - gets likes takes receives
They You I - receive |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:02 am Post subject: |
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guangho

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:00 am Post subject: |
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He received a life sentence- meaning that in a past tense, as the judgement has already been passed.
He will receive a life sentence- Will, in the future receive a life sentence.
He receive is incorrect because the only possibilties are that he will (future) or has (past) been sentenced. It can, perhaps be present continous (He is receiving a life sentence, although that is uncommon) but the usage "he receive" does not fall into any acceptable paradigm.
Or you could just do what I do- say it is a matter of style and that's that.  |
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Kimchieluver

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Do some of you need a life sentence for trying to teach English?
(or is it?)
Is teaching English like receiving a life sentence? |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:56 am Post subject: Re: "he receive a life sentence" |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
How would you explain to someone how this is wrong?
"he receive a life sentence"
I know its wrong.. and explained it would have to be '-ed' or a 'will receive'.. but having a tough time explaining the rule on when this can be used in the present tense.. if it can at all. |
Don't you teach at a University and have a CELTA course to your credit? Please tell me that this is a joke. This question pertains to the basic rules of grammar.
Don't you rememember:
I go
You go
He/She goes
They go
We go |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Who is he?
And why will he receive a life sentence anyway? |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:38 am Post subject: |
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"He receive a life sentence" is the sentence my student wrote using the word 'receive' (or any of its forms) in a sentence.
Of course its grammatically correct to use 'he receives' for present tense.
But if my student wants to use it as 'he receives a life sentence'.. can you think of any time when it would be used in a sentence in this way? I would think realistically it would have to be either past or future.
I suggested the 'he is receiving a life sentence' as a possible present tense suggestion.. but she really wanted to know more about the 'he receives' and if its at all possible. |
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jazblanc77

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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"He receives" would imply a habitual or recurring action OR that the action is part of a story being told. If it is not part of a story in the second person or it doesn't happen more than once then the style above is incorrect and you would have to use either a past or future tense. |
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