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sunboy



Joined: 26 Nov 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Virgins Reply with quote

Would you guys date a girl if she was a virgin? If someone is like 22 or 23 and still a virgin is that weird or not? I'm not just talking about Korean girls, westerners also. How long would you go out with a girl without sleeping with her? I have met someone, but she is mormon. So, she told me on our first date she was waiting for marriage. If I know I don't want to marry her should I just end things? I'm a bit conflicted and confused, anyone faced similar situations in the past?
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you only interested in sex? If so, end it. If you want to be a real person and find a real relationship, give it a shot.

KPRROK
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Virgins Reply with quote

Sure.

But not because of it, inspite of it. If she was fine enough for me to date at all then I'd want to know the reasons why she waited so long, and I'd make my decisions based on that, see if I could get my head around her point of view..

Honestly, saying that non-virgitnity is (of itself) wierd, is pretty similar but in the opposite direction of the wierd guys who want nothing else but the girl who has never been touched by any male hands prior to his.

Maybe a more interesting question is for the gals who come here - would you think less of a man (or more) if you started getting cool with him and found out he'd never, you know, "done it" before.

Does "saving yourself" denote fear of the act or a greater level of respect for it?
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a feeling there are a lot of over 20 virgins in the ROK and a good few over 25.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Virgins Reply with quote

sunboy wrote:
Would you guys date a girl if she was a virgin? If someone is like 22 or 23 and still a virgin is that weird or not? I'm not just talking about Korean girls, westerners also. How long would you go out with a girl without sleeping with her? I have met someone, but she is mormon. So, she told me on our first date she was waiting for marriage. If I know I don't want to marry her should I just end things? I'm a bit conflicted and confused, anyone faced similar situations in the past?

Yes I'd definetely date a virgin if I was interested in her. Why not?

Dating isn't ONLY about shagging .. its also about getting to know someone that you are interested in.
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little mixed girl



Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am 21 and a virgin.
a number of my friends are also 20+ and virgins.
there's nothing 'weird' about it.

some of them are probably virgins for religious reasons, others (like me) not for religious reasons.

really, a relationship is not about sex.
it's about knowing a person, trusting them, etc etc.

if u only want to have sex, there are plenty of places that will take your $$$.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

little mixed girl wrote:
if u only want to have sex, there are plenty of places that will take your $$$.

That's just wrong. It's free if you use your hands.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop Footing The Bill On Dates
By Matthew Fitzgerald, Askmen.com (retrieved on December 27 2004)
http://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_100/101_dating_advice.html

The REPORT Newsmagazine
United Western Communications
April 24, 2000
Pregnant on the sly
The practice of falsely attributing fatherhood is rising among women
by Walter H. Schneider and Candis McLean
http://www.fathersforlife.org/fatherhood/pregnant_sly.htm
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be more worried about her being a Mormon than a virgin
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Virgins Reply with quote

sunboy wrote:
I have met someone, but she is mormon. So, she told me on our first date she was waiting for marriage. If I know I don't want to marry her should I just end things?


Yes. Unless you want to hold out and become a polygamist.

Sparkles*_*
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JacktheCat



Joined: 08 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Virgins Reply with quote

sunboy wrote:

If someone is like 22 or 23 and still a virgin is that weird or not?



Not in Korea it isn't.

Remember you have to subtract 5-7 years to determine their emotional and social maturity level by western standards.
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Relationships aren't just about sex or passion.........

BUT...

... if he's not planning on marrying her, then what's the difference between dating a girl and having a passionless relationship, or just getting to be really good, close friends with her - without calling it dating? For instance, when people wait 6 months to even kiss, I don't consider them to be dating - because friends can share a special bond and hang out and feel (platonic) love for one another...

Don't get me wrong....I can't wait to fall in love again, and find someone where I just wake up thinking about them and wanting to see them smile and talk to them and....everything.......but it's a lot nicer to be waking up next to the person you love, rather than have them go home at 10pm every night because of a curfew.

I don't know....it just seems that every now and then, I'll start talking to a Koren girl, and they'll want a relationship like I had when I was 12 - when you'd ask a girl "Will you go with me?"......and then you could hold hands, and talk, and spend time together, and maybe....just maybe....she might kiss you on the lips once - if you're lucky...
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to date guys a little older than me as a general rule, so yeah I would be a little freaked out if a guy I was seeing told me he was a virgin.

I think there's a certain amount of emotional maturity that comes along with sexual experience, and if a guy in his 30s doesn't have that, it's cause for concern.
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squat toilet



Joined: 08 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went down that road in university and i'll never do it again.

I started dating this hotty that was known on campus for her religious commitment to abstinence...we started talking one night at the bar and really hit it off. It turned out she was all religified but in a pretty progressive, open-minded kinda way...I'd never run across anyone like that. She drank, smoked pot, had fun, but never had sex.

Against my better judgement we started dating. Even though we had fun and got along really well, without those sexual sparkx (copyright) it felt like the relationship was diseased - almost like she wasn't a real person by subduing such a normal, healthy aspect of human nature.

Anyways, i eventually lost all interest in her sexually and just starting seeing her as i would a sister. She pretty much just became a member of my circle of friends.

One night we got loaded and came back to my place. We started kissing a bit when she said to me "I think this is the night...You know, THE night." I was horrified. This girl spent 2 months hammering any sexual attraction I felt for her out of me and then suddenly, one random night, throws a boat load of pressure and responsibility on my shoulders by proclaiming that i am to be the chosen one to take her precious gift (snicker). No fricken thanks.

I'm still friends with the girl and keep in contact with her via email. She started seeing some guy that she thought was perfect.."handsome, church going pot head with a lust for life" as she described him. They got engaged, and were making all necessary arrangements for the wedding when she stumbled across nude pictures of his ex-girlfriend. It was discovered that even this perfect, well adjusted champion of sexual control couldn't deal with queen blue balls and started banging his ex-girlfriend.
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AJRimmer



Joined: 31 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Virgins Reply with quote

sunboy wrote:
I have met someone, but she is mormon. So, she told me on our first date she was waiting for marriage.?


You should check out whether Mormons marry outside their cult,
I haven't looked into it, but I imagine her cult wouldn't be too happy to see her marry you.

If you seriosly want to marry her, either join the Mormons and spend 2 years seperated from her while you preach in a foreiogn country. (You won't be allowed to contact her during that time)

Or

Talk her into leaving the cult, research some of the sheer lunzcy of their founders statements and the scientific evidence which shows the guy was a con man
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