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[uberscheisse]

hey JG, thanks for the kind words.

first, i don't want to give too much detail about the attack because i had had a few beers when i put up my OP. my friend (like most truly intelligent people with a life and hobbies) doesn't read this board but it's her private issue and i sorta regret posting about it in the first place.

but - as some of you know - i'm a hothead. i'm also fiercely protective of my friends.

details i can say - he does know where she lives. it may not have been random. she does live in a seedy area. she didn't think she was being followed.

therefore i want to help her stack the odds in her favor. she will most definitely be escorted by me or other friends (most of her friends are male and really large). hell, i'll even piggyback her home while carrying a sword. but this is only for when we all go out together. she needs some sort of ammo for when she's returning from work etc.

so thanks for any positive advice. i'll be working on some sort of anti-ajossi strategy for her in the hours to come.

[PolyChronic Time Girl]

You sound like a golden friend and it's too bad that people here are giving you a hard time in this serious issue. It's not a joke...there are quite a number of pig ajeoshis in this country who are not human, but dirty, worthless animals who look for the opportunity to prey on unsuspecting woman. I hope these type of men die and continually hope something bad happens to them so we are blessed not to have them on this planet. I've had experiences and I would go with the suggestion that your friend use martial arts training...alot of these times, these pig ajeoshi men are small, weak, and drunk so overpowering them would be easy. Pepper spray would be a good idea, but if I had pepper spray and some ajeohis attacked me, I'd probably use the pepper spray repeatedly till his eyes literally burned out of his eye sockets...that would probably land me in some legal trouble...although I'd like to pepper spray a perverted ajeoshi until his eyes fell out.
Does your friend know Korean? I've taken it upon myself to learn cuss words so I can yell them back at a perverted ajeoshi...and I've had to use them quite a bit....it draws public attention and those subhuman ajeohsis have run away from me. I've also said in rude Korean to some eyeing ajeoshi on the subway, "f*ck off, I have a Korean husband."
Hopefully, this will be one-time incident for your friend. I personally know some incidents in where foreign girls were attacked but the Korean police are the most useless force in this country and don't help out or blame the foreigner for the incident. Is it possible she could move? I know it sounds drastic...is she a teacher?...can she negotiate a move with her school?

[Vince]

I'm sorry to hear this is such a prevalent thing in Korea, and especially sorry to hear that the police are likely to pin the blame on foreigners who successfully defend themselves.

I ask this just for the sake of discussion and don't intend to insult anybody here. Why live in a country where you don't have the right to defend yourself from a criminal attack? Regardless of the good points of living in the country, many people would consider that to be a deal breaker.

[JongnoGuru]

[Southern Drawl]

The best protection for your friend can come from you being her escort. Most men back down when they see that their victim has an escort.

Martial Arts training is good, but my suggestion is to join a school and tell the master what happened. Tell him you want real world self defense training. Most masters will understand. Martial arts schools in Korea treat their members as family. Openly ask the master and the other students if they would be willing to escort you. Most of the students most certainly will. Family helps family.

Unfortunately, if you do use physical force in Korea to defend yourself you probably won't be treated as the victim by a judge. But, of course every situation is different and you should be the judge not anyone else.

Non-lethal forms of defense would be seen in a better light by a judge than lethal ones. Someone recommended a loud horn, good idea. Another good idea that most don't even consider is the self-defense flashlight like the ones made by Surefire. They are very small and produce a light of 120 lumens. The idea is simple, as your attacker approaches, quickly aim, push the push button switch on the rear with your thumb, your attacker is blinded, run. If you are in close quarters and can't run, blind him and then hammer him in the head with the light.
Simple and effective. You can carry the light with you any place and no one will question you about it and the police won't arrest you for carrying a weapon. Surefire makes some good lights but I have also seen another brand being sold at Costco.

http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/prrfnbr/895/sesent/00

[Daechidong Waygookin]

Shame on those who attacked the OP. Sexual assault or rape is NOT A LAUGHING MATTER SO CRAM THOSE STUPID REMARKS WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE. Losers. If someone attacked a female I knew personally, id be out for blood, Korean laws would be the last thing on my mind. I feel nothing but empathy and sympathy for the OP's friend who must be going through a personal hell. Idiotic remarks from inconsiderate clowns are not helpful.

[uberscheisse]

let the record show that i now want to buy daechidong waegookin a beer.

[uberscheisse]

update-

to all those who offered advice and info, my friend is now well on her way to becoming strapped against slimer ajossis and feels much safer now that she knows she has access to such products.

she doesn't post here but she passes along her thanks to all of you.

[PolyChronic Time Girl]

I'm happy that she's doing better. I'm happy to hear that she feels empowered now...that's the key to keeping some of those horrible ajeoshis away.

[squat toilet]

hey uberscheisse...make sure to inform your friend that if she is ever in a situation where she actually uses the pepperspray, she MUST get the hell outta dodge immediately thereafter....dose the adjossi, kick him in the junk a few dozen times and then jump in a taxi. NEVER wait for neibours to come out and certainly don't stick around waiting for the police.

Adjossi's are sneaky as hell with shiat like this...he'll turn the whole thing around and get witnesses on his side while crying about permanant eye injury...she'd be looking at severe fines, possible jail time and deportation.

I'm 100% in agreement that she should defend herself at all costs but she must understand the possible repercussions for sticking around expecting legal justice.

[JongnoGuru]

[uberscheisse]

[Bunnymonster]

For fear of upsetting Grotto again, PM me if you want information about defensive devices. What I will say here is that I really wouldn't reccomend pepper spray as it is easy to prove that you got gassed and there is no other reason for possesing it.

[Grotto]

dog repellent?

Yeah the gloves come off when sexual assault is in play. That would be one where you jam the arm of your glasses into your attackers eyeball!