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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| agraham wrote: |
Gotta disagree. It's a bit wierd. Perhaps not for a 21 year old.. but much older than that and yeah, wierd. |
some of these friends are 22, 23yr old americans.
why should we give it up just to be able to say that we did?
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If it's for religious reasons, to me that's wierd. Sorry. If it's because you're waiting to meet someone you love, I would say that's a good way to live and not wierd, unless you've made it through your prime dating years never having fallen in love. Slightly wierd.
If it's because of fears of disease and pregnancy, that's pretty rational - but choosing not to live a major part of your life out of a fear of losing it... to me that's a bit wierd. |
personally, i'm a bit opposed to ppl holding on to the v-card for religious reasons. you have to personally want it, it has to be something that holds value for you. if you are holding it just because you think that's what god wants, then no.
i've not fallen in love.
there's a difference between love and lust. i've lusted after a good number of hot guys. and at times that can feel like love, but really it's not.
in my case, i've gotten more than enough offers from men...many of whom are old enough to be my dad, for dates.
i'm a picky person. and i don't put myself out there (as in clubbing, calling up people, etc).
sure, i could be dating some random scruffy guy who talked to be at the bus stop or at work, but that's not what i want.
and when you are picky you have to wait. |
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drgoo
Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Location: Home, sweet home
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I grew up in Utah, surrounded by Mormon girls. Yes, some of them have different (and intriguing) ideas of what it is to be a virgin. If you're interested in any type of intimate relationship with this woman you should invite her to outline her definition of "virgin" for you. Be sure to focus on what is permissible... 
Let me clarify a few others points for you...
1) Mormons are free to marry non-Mormons. They have seminars for women to help them cope with non-member spouses.
2) They aren't a cult, any more than any other Christian organization.
3) Most mormons have day jobs, drive cars, and some even pay taxes.
4) They can always repent and be forgiven later. Remind her of that. Often
5) There are 12+ million of them worldwide and about 1.5 million living in Utah alone.
6) Yes, brown love is common, as is oral sex. There are surprising numbers of teenage girls with STDs in Utah from these practices.
6) Mormons are people, too.
I'm not defending any of their beliefs, no, but if somebody wants to remain a virgin I say more power to 'em. It gives others something to strive for.
Love to all,
dg |
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The Great Toad
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm more than I wanted to know about Mormons. No I will not quote the facts... ewwwww!
Go Go Little Mixed Girl Go!
Stand Up strong on Your Choice! Don't lie down on your convictions!
When I think of you and sweet lasses like you the Whitney Huston song line comes to mind...
"I'm saving all my Love for Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu." |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| Thankfully, I came of age during the late sixties and early seventies. It was a very open time. Experimentation was encouraged, and I believe that it resulted in a healthy attitude about sexuality, and placed it in a proper perspective vis-a-vis relationships in the broader sense. Now it seems that the pendulum has swung in the other direction, in which the religious right is calling the shots, and natural human impulses are regarded as something to be sublimated or repressed. Any graduate of Psych 101 can explain how this can result in obsessive and potential psychotic behavior in other directions. Enjoy the sensuality that you were born to explore. By all means be careful and discriminating, but don't deny your birthright. "Sex without love is a meaningless experience, but as meaningless experiences go, it's one of the best." |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| Why would you want to 'save' your virginity unless for religious reasons? Does it pay off a bigger dividend if you wait longer to cash it in? |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| Why would you want to 'save' your virginity unless for religious reasons? Does it pay off a bigger dividend if you wait longer to cash it in? |
Personally I think that becoming sexually active when emotionally not ready for it just leads to psychological problems that take most women through their early twenties to get rid of. I think an average woman is not ready to protect herself physically and emotionally until she's out of her teens. Maybe that seems like poppyc*ck to you, but I swear, that's my honest opinion. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| I had a feeling someone was going to reply along those lines. Actually I wasn't being completely serious, but I don't like the idea of virginity as some kind of commodity a woman can bestow on a 'lucky' guy. It seems fetishistic. On the other hand, I've heard too many times from too many people how big a deal a woman's first time is to dismiss it. So I don't know...thank god this is not likely to be an issue with any woman I'm likely to meet!! |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| I don't like the idea of virginity as some kind of commodity a woman can bestow on a 'lucky' guy. |
There's nothing lucky about doing a virgin. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| I don't like the idea of virginity as some kind of commodity a woman can bestow on a 'lucky' guy. |
There's nothing lucky about doing a virgin. |
have u gotten my room ready?
i'll bring some instant hot apple cider. |
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agraham
Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Location: Daegu, Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| Why would you want to 'save' your virginity unless for religious reasons? Does it pay off a bigger dividend if you wait longer to cash it in? |
I think there's something to be said for doing it the first time with someone you really care about. That's a memory you can look back on and smile about every day for the rest of your life.
People who did it in a drunken haze at some party with someone who's name now means nothing to them got shortchanged in a big way. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| I don't like the idea of virginity as some kind of commodity a woman can bestow on a 'lucky' guy. |
There's nothing lucky about doing a virgin. |
Hence the inverted commas. |
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