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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: Has anyone else ever noticed this, or is it just me? |
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| Does anyone realize that if 5,000 white teachers in Korea officially announced and then carried out even the most basic work strike, all in unison, that lots of Kims would suddenly be nervously crying and shaking and real agreements would indeed be made and met? |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: |
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It would be nice if all ESL teachers banned together for a 3-5 day no work protest...but...most would not have to balls to do so.
Protesting would be a wake up call for hakwon owners. Just because you may have a great contract and decent hakwon boss...the MAJORITY do not and so we all need to band together for the benefit of all.
I am at a University...lucky...but for hakwons...I'd protest for no more than 5 50 minute classes a day, salary of no less than 2.0, decent housing, better materials, allowed to attend workshops throughout the year, etc... |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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It would be beneficial to all if that happened.
I have found that the vast majority of FT's in Korea have all the backbone of a worm. They refuse to stand up for themselves.
Sad but true |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| My husband has always said that there should be a union.. but then who would organise it and who would join? I somehow can't see it happening. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Beneficial how?
I have no big problems with my workplace. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| A strike over what, exactly? Everyone's problems are different, and due to a general lack of professionalism. What would work better is if more teachers were in a position to and had the spine to disregard management and just teach effectively, and quit when not paid or given needless grief at work. |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| A strike over what, exactly? Everyone's problems are different... |
Agreed, but there are common threads.
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| and due to a general lack of professionalism. |
One reason but over simplified.
And bosses that aren't concerned with education
And cultural differences
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What would work better is if more teachers were in a position to and had the spine to disregard management and just teach effectively, and quit when not paid or given needless grief at work. |
You mean in a position like the ability to control their visa status?
Not stuck for housing.
Etc. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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I'd like something done about your employer having control over your E-2 visa.
If Korea employed the Japanese system where teachers can move much more easily to a new job it might make the crappy employers here be a bit nicer. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| turtlepi1 wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| A strike over what, exactly? Everyone's problems are different... |
Agreed, but there are common threads.
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| and due to a general lack of professionalism. |
One reason but over simplified.
And bosses that aren't concerned with education
And cultural differences
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
What would work better is if more teachers were in a position to and had the spine to disregard management and just teach effectively, and quit when not paid or given needless grief at work. |
You mean in a position like the ability to control their visa status?
Not stuck for housing.
Etc. |
A lot of us come over here with student loans, etc., not much money saved up; indeed that's *why* a lot of us come. After you're more than half-way through a contract, have a bit saved up, can give your 30 days notice and make a visa run, etc., I think it would be worth demonstrating a little more spine. That's the position I'm reaching, and to be honest, things are not nearly so bad at my hogwan as they are at others. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| A strike over what, exactly? Everyone's problems are different, and due to a general lack of professionalism. What would work better is if more teachers were in a position to and had the spine to disregard management and just teach effectively, and quit when not paid or given needless grief at work. |
A "we're greedy and we want more money" strike!! Since we have no common complaints really, let's just strike to get our wages up... and admit it freely! I can make some signs: more Won or we're gone!  |
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