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would you boycott the olympics in China? |
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nasigoreng

Joined: 14 May 2004
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject: Boycott China Olympics? |
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Would you boycott the olympics in China because of current (and not so current) events:
* China's threating posture towards Taiwan . China recently passed a law that allowed the use of military force towards the rogue province should they declare independence.
* Recent anti-Japanese demonstrations targeting Japanese businesses and civilians. the government isn't doing much to control these mobs and refuses to apologize.
* China's occupation and human rights abuses in Tibet. human rights violations in general.
* The EU reneging on the weapons sales ban to China.... just think of all the aircraft, missles, and cattle prods they can buy with all the revenues from the olympics. |
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funplanet

Joined: 20 Jun 2003 Location: The new Bucheon!
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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None of the items on the list strike me as representing a qualitative change from anything that China was doing at the time they were awarded the Olympics(with the exception of the anti-Japanese riots, but hasn't the government pretty much cracked down on those?) If you wanted to make a case for not giving them the Olympics in the first place, that's another story. But having already awarded them the games, it seems a little arbitrary to then just turn around and say "oh, on second thought we don't like your human rights record, so we're not gonna come". |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Boycott the Olympics period. Overrated and over commercialized. |
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Cthulhu

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, its certainly easier than boycotting Chinese products, cause these days you can't avoid them.  |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
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Paji eh Wong

Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Apple Scruff wrote: |
Boycott the Olympics period. Overrated and over commercialized. |
You forgot politicized and hypocritical.
The boxing, anyway. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon wrote: |
None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
What does constitute a good enough reason in your opinion? |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: |
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I think it would be nice if a bunch of countries got together and held the 'freedom games' (or some other tacky name) instead in protest. Allow only genuinely amatuer athletes, and start off the opening ceremonies with video tapes of all China's recent human rights abuses. I really hope that some athletes have the guts to boycot on principle. Give China til 2007 to show some serious changes and then pull the plug.
Look at what the 1988 Olympics did for helping to reform Korea. The same *could* happen in China but it's not looking likely, and the fact that other countries never back up their complaints about human rights abuses with any action is one of the reasons why. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Gwangjuboy wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
What does constitute a good enough reason in your opinion? |
war or if the host nation cannot provide adequate security.
The olympics are not a place for politics. Boycotting hurts the athletes and does not help international relations. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 1:59 am Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon wrote: |
Gwangjuboy wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
What does constitute a good enough reason in your opinion? |
war or if the host nation cannot provide adequate security.
The olympics are not a place for politics. Boycotting hurts the athletes and does not help international relations. |
Would you have been proud to have competed in Berlin in 1936? I'm sure they had excellent security. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
Gwangjuboy wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
What does constitute a good enough reason in your opinion? |
war or if the host nation cannot provide adequate security.
The olympics are not a place for politics. Boycotting hurts the athletes and does not help international relations. |
Would you have been proud to have competed in Berlin in 1936? I'm sure they had excellent security. |
They did have excellent security. I seem to remember America won some medals then. Should we have boycotted the olympics 3 years before the war? |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:44 am Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon wrote: |
Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
Gwangjuboy wrote: |
kangnamdragon wrote: |
None of the above are reasons to boycott the Olympics. |
What does constitute a good enough reason in your opinion? |
war or if the host nation cannot provide adequate security.
The olympics are not a place for politics. Boycotting hurts the athletes and does not help international relations. |
Would you have been proud to have competed in Berlin in 1936? I'm sure they had excellent security. |
They did have excellent security. I seem to remember America won some medals then. Should we have boycotted the olympics 3 years before the war? |
If America didn't have apartheid in the South, then boycotting them because of the Nuremberg Laws would have been very noble indeed. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Oh purleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
I am Chinese, my granddad was a General for Chiang Kai Shek. He fought the communists right until the end. He stayed at his station and was thrown in jail. He spent 15, yes, 15 long years in a Chinese jail. He went to Hong Kong when I was 2 years old... I don't bear a grudge. Why should you? There are more to what goes on between the two places than meet the eyes. I have families in both places and both sides want unification. Sure, what the mainland Chinese doing may not necessarily be to your liking, but I don't really see why boycotting the olympics will make it any better for the Taiwanese. It doesn't matter to the government, but the people suffer because of the loss of income as a result of your boycott - and what KND said about the athletes. The mainland Chinese people will end up further blaming the Taiwanese for the failure of their Olympics and it will be a vicious circle that never ends.
My husband and I will go with Letty!
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Eunoia

Joined: 06 Jul 2003 Location: In a seedy karakoe bar by the banks of the mighty Bosphorus
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Boycott China Olympics? |
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nasigoreng wrote: |
* The EU reneging on the weapons sales ban to China.... just think of all the aircraft, missles, and cattle prods they can buy with all the revenues from the olympics. |
Wouldn't that be a reason to boycott the E.U., not China?
Either way, I won't be watching. Apple Scruff got it just about right. The Summer Olympics are about as exciting as watching wet laundry twist in the breeze. |
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