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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: no topic Reply with quote

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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: tutoring my director! Reply with quote

kimbelina wrote:
A teacher at my hogwan has told me the director wants me to tutor him english during my class prep time, 3 times a week. Im guessing I wont be paid, because first its illegal, and second its during my working hours. She said that she has tutored him english before and it didnt last very long...

I think this is a sucky deal - not only do I really need that class prep time, but I wont be getting any extra money for one on one tutoring!

Do I grin and bear it and hope he gets bored after a few weeks? Or should I refuse? Him and the staff have been great and I dont want to cause any probs by telling him where to go... what do you think?


Just out of interest, why would it be illegal? Is it not teaching English, in the premises shown on your ARC?
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are an adult as is he presumably. I suggest you sit down with your director and share your concerns. If he is a nice enough person perhaps you could suggest that you give him a 30 minute lesson when you have time, nothing formal or scheduled. That way the ball is in your court and you have the power. Sometimes you have to do things without getting anything monetary in return. You may though get other, less tangible rewards.
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sheba



Joined: 16 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isnt it illegal to receive money for tutoring, regardless of where it takes place or who its with, without changing your visa status? Or is it ok as long as the director approves...?

I found out today that it will be both him and his son now.... would have been nice for him to tell me (with someone to translate), rather than finding out through different people!
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd handle it this way: I'd explain to the director that I really need the prep time so I can do a GREAT job with his paying students, but I'd be willing to give him X minutes, X days a week (whatever you'd feel comfortable doing). This shows that you're a "team player" but also that you care about your students (and ultimately HIS profits!).
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dandoeskorea



Joined: 10 Apr 2005
Location: London

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The principal at my public school wanted me to do the same with him, for up to an hour at a time, 5 days a week. I sat down with him and said that whilst I'd be willing to help him out, an hour was too much, and would eat into my class prep. time considerably. I think if you are honest and polite your director should understand. If you go along without saying anything I think they'll perhaps assume that you're totally happy with that arrangement, and would be surprised at your change of heart if you turn around and air your grievance at a later date. Since speaking with my principal I've been seeing him for between 10 and 20 minutes a day, and it's not as bad as I'd thought it may have been. We just sit and talk over a coffee, and apart from the free refreshments the other benefit is that the guy now thinks I can do no wrong.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my two bits:
do it if you are under your contracted hours. if you are at your max, charge him overtime.

at least try to get something out of this deal.
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prosodic



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimbelina wrote:
Isnt it illegal to receive money for tutoring, regardless of where it takes place or who its with, without changing your visa status? Or is it ok as long as the director approves...?

I found out today that it will be both him and his son now.... would have been nice for him to tell me (with someone to translate), rather than finding out through different people!


There is nothing illegal about it if it is on the premises covered by your visa, you receive payment from your contracted employer, and the income is reported to the tax office. There is a big difference between one-on-one tutoring at your workplace and "private tutoring."
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
I'd handle it this way: I'd explain to the director that I really need the prep time so I can do a GREAT job with his paying students, but I'd be willing to give him X minutes, X days a week (whatever you'd feel comfortable doing). This shows that you're a "team player" but also that you care about your students (and ultimately HIS profits!).


This is the best idea on the thread, imo. Kimbelina, you said everyone has been generous to you. If you put forth a little generosity of your own, who knows what you'll receive in the end. My boss just bought me a bike the other day, because I go out of my way for him sometimes.

But definitely set a schedule. I've noticed that Koreans really like to have "promises", or what we call appointments. And he's probably got a busy schedule as a director and can't just linger around wondering what time is good for you.

Be a diplomat and meet him half way.
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