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[Smee]

I thought some parts were funny (like R2-D2 on Grievous's ship).

And yeah, it seemed rushed. Eps 1 and 2 were too talkative, and could be boiled down to about 45 minutes a piece, with the stuff from the Clone Wars to Episode 4 comprising Eps 2 and 3 (if that makes sense).

But, I should at least give Lucas credit for doing it his way, and according to his vision (as flawed and revisionist as it is.)

Off-topic a little, but does anyone know if the Star Wars books (like, the ones that deal with plots before Ep 1 and after Ep 6) are "official?" I mean, do they correspond to the "real" Star Wars Universe?

[endofthewor1d]

i just saw it this afternoon. i liked it, but it had it's faults. grevious's coughing fits bothered me until i saw that he wasn't all machine, and then i thought it was kind of cool. but who decided to model his speech after triumph the insult comic dog?

as was said many times before, anakin's turn to the dark side was a little too quick. i haven't liked his character in any of the prequels. he's just a whiny little b*tch. i guess that's heredetary though.
hmm... maybe i'm not being entirely fair. now that i think about it, he was on the fence for most of the movie, and after he helps take out windu, i guess it's feasable that he could know then and there that there's no going back.
something i actually liked quite a bit was anakin's transformation to vader. i was wondering the whole time why he was going to need the respirator. the near death by fire was pretty cool. but not only the physical transformation. i think there was a convincing psychological transformation as well once the costume had been donned. in my opinion he comes just enough to a proper point between being merely palpateen's b*tch to being what he'd be 20 years later. even in episode 4, while he's a bad@ss on his own merit, leia makes the comment "i should have expected you to be holding vader's leash" or something like that.

i didn't like the droids acting goofy, or expressing human-like emotions. i didn't like the big beast that obi wan was riding around. i didn't like that jar jar binks or any of his race was still alive. but i did like that he shut the hell up. i believe there is a causal relationship between how much screentime jar jar binks gets and how much a movie sucks.

i've got more to say, but 'master and commander' just came on.

[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

I liked Grievous a lot. Cooler than Darth Maul, that's for sure.

I liked Anakin beheading Dooku (although it's always a shame when Christopher Lee gets such short screentime).

I didn't like Mace Windu. What a jerk!

I didn't like the juxtaposing of the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel and the Yoda/Palpatine one. Yoda/Palpatine should have come earlier in the film, and Anakin/Obi-Wan needed its own scene -- no cut-aways.

Another thing that bothered me was that, over the three prequels, there's no consistency with Yoda. In Ep. I I believe he's a puppet, mostly (I could be wrong; I haven't seen Ep. 1 since 1999), and the CGI Yodas in II and III are very different. The scene where Yoda talks one-to-one with Anakin early in the movie, Yoda's head is the size of a beach ball! Even Frank Oz's voice is different.

I liked the scene where Anakin visits Palpantine at the theater. That droning hum sounded very ominous and creepy. And it was nice to learn Palpatine's backstory.

I loved the opening sequence. Watching that on the big screen gave me some serious vertigo.

One question I have is: in Eps I and II, isn't Darth Sidious's (Palpatine's) face all saggy and gruesome when he's disguised in his cloak? If so, why did they need Windu's deflecting his force lightening to explain how his face got that way? It doesn't make sense. Unless I'm remembering wrong and Sidious's face in the first two prequels was similar to Palpatine's -- which doesn't seem right.

Also, who was Darth Tyranos, mentioned in Ep. II? Dooku, right?

Sparkles*_*

[crazylemongirl]

[prosodic]

[Canucksaram]

RE: Darth Tyranus

Yes, Count Dooku is Darth Tyranus.

Yoda trained Dooku. Dooku trained Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon trained Obi-Won. Obi-Won trained Anakin.

Did you catch the line in the movie where Palpatine/Sidious strongly implies that HE is Anakin's father?

In Episode I we learn that Anakin's mother became "spontaneously" pregnant. In Episode III Palpatine/Sidious tells Anakin a story about "Darth Plageuis" and how Plagueis developed such incredible skill with the Force that he could (a) halt the aging process, and (b) cause midi-chlorians to spontaneously begin life.

Overall, the movie sucked. Anakin was not "turned" believably, and being an oh-so-happy expectant father, his murdering the entire creche of Jedi "Younglings" was NOT believable in the least.

[Dysupes]

Ummm, that line where Palpatine tells Anakin about Darth Plageuis made me think that Palpatine was the apprentice to Plageuis and was the one who killed him after learning all his secrets. Though Palpatine could not grant immortality, as he says towards the end when he uses this line to convince Anakin that together they could solve that puzzle and become immortal, he never says anything about whether or not he could create life by manipulating the midi-chlorians. Still, I think it's jumping the gun a bit to say that Palpatine is implying he is Anakin's father... and the reason I say this is because if this were true then Lucas would have made sure to use this in Palpatine's speeches to Anakin to try to lure him to the dark side. This would have been a useful and believable bargaining chip for Palpatine and it's omission has to count towards the idea that it isn't true.

[Hollywoodaction]

[stumptown]

If the video stores in your area have it, rent the original again. Lucas did a good job of writing the prequels to tie in with the original. Luke's training in the original 3 episodes didn't seem to be that intense. I thought vader was looking at the death star in the end of III with palpatine. Also, I think that palpatine's face had always been disfigured and I agree that he used the force to change it. By the way, when the original came out, did it say Episode IV:A new hope? The remastered version says it, as well as including a scene after they hire Han Solo where it shows him talking to Jabba the Hut while he's prepping the Falcon. Was that in the original as well?

[lastat06513]

Look at my avitar~~ need I say?

I am a BIG Star Wars fan (saw the movie when it first came out in 1977, though I don't remember watching it much since I was shy of my 1st birthday). But I know that from then until now, the series has impacted my life significantly.

Episode I- It needed alot more to make it a good movie. I talked to my friend about it today and we agreed that adding Jar Jar Binks was not a good idea. I think they did that to get children to watch it, trying to ride the same cool fame from the Ewok phenomenon- unfortunately, it didn't work.

Episode II- That movie did a better job of telling the story that the first movie limped away trying to tell. And I think that part where Yoda fought Lord Dukoo (sp?), that kicked some serious arze

Episode III- Was the best out of all the prequals (Yet I'll rank it second only to Empire Strikes Back). I think Lucas did a fantastic job finishing the series. I think this is a good way to thank our generation for the unwavering support we gave him for the rest of the series.

Episode IV- This was the one that started it all. I loved all the fight scenes and the finale was also cool. Especially how Han Solo saved the day,
Yee-haw!! (this is the first and last time you will ever hear me say that on this forum)

Episode V- I believe this movie was ahead of its time in 1980. The visual FX were so cool and it was almost believable. And they introduced alot of new cool characters (Boba Fett) and the awesome song "Imperial March"

Episode VI- I give it thumbs up for being very believable and highly imaginative. Though, like the Jar Jar Binks glut, the Ewoks failed alittle. Cute but not too battle-effective

[mount real]

Anakin turned so easily because of what he did, and he knew he wasn't going to come back to the Jedi order after that. He is a young man and he is trying---desperately---to cling onto whatever truth is slung at him. Therefore he kills the younglings and the other Jedi relunctantly, and after killing the Separatists, sheds a tear. Anakin did whatever he thought was necessary to save Padme, be it with the Sith or with the Jedi. Darth Vader has become a much more complex character because of this, so embrace it or keep clinging onto this original trilogy from your youth a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

I loved this movie, and the prequels....the prequels was a time for the emotionally reserved Jedi, and the original trilogy, that of the exuberant youth of Luke, Leia, and especially, the much loved Han. I love both trilogies, and I think the prequels would have sucked if it would have been 3 more movies of Han type machismo----as much as I love Han....now I have 2 distinct trilogies, both amazing in their own right...but Obi-Wan rules forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Revenge of the Sith, IMO, is right up there with Episode IV and V..

[matthewwoodford]

What I wanted to see tho' was a Faustian moment, where Anakin is tempted by the power. This to be accompanied by a personality change.

[panthermodern]

I thought Grevious was what was left of Darth Maul, the Darth Vader proto-type.

Grevious had yellow eyes and red skin, as did Maul.

Grevious was obviously a Cyborg and not a Droid (android).

Personally, I don`t think Mace is Dead.

And I wonder why they cut the `ghost scene` between Yoda and Qui-Gon

and will they add Qui-Gon to the end of Epsd. VI in Star Wars 3D

[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

[crazylemongirl]