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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Location: In My Skin

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Angry Parent Reply with quote

Well tomorrow will be my first parent complaint in person. The mother of one of my 6 year olds is comming into school to have a meeting with the supervisor about the quality of her daughter's workbook. She's upset because I didn't correct her daughter's work during class. I find it hard to get the children to complete the amount of book work in class, nevermind doing it right. I guess her G's look like 6's.....and I must have not shown her how to write them right, even though there is a "G" on the page right in front of her.
So I guess my question would be: "what would be the right way to respond to being blamed for a 6 year old's incapablity or interest in doing her work book correctly?" My first response and rational in thinking was "well, did she talk to her daughter about her efforts in class?" but I forgot.....its still my fault...or we wouldn't be having this conversation.

thanks for any suggestions. Wink And for those who feel the itch to criticize my english writing skills...please refer to my last post on "being scolded" Rolling Eyes
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just say that writing English and the alphabet is not that important, her child is just too smart.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask her to write a nine and see if she writes it like a "P" the way many Koreans do. Then, say sorry and that you'll try your best to improve her little princess' English ability.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a child's parent (a post-grad lingusitics student) grill me on how I intended to teach her precious the difference between "bed" & "bad." I explained it didnt really matter & that context was the more important determiner & please get back to me after your child has mastered a response to "How are you?"

Never saw her again. Her child though went on to do quite well.
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denverdeath wrote:
Ask her to write a nine and see if she writes it like a "P" the way many Koreans do. Then, say sorry and that you'll try your best to improve her little princess' English ability.


Ain't that the truth. What is it with Koreans and writing numbers? It's not like there's a language problem - it's a number for gawd's sake!

Then the next mother will complain that their little misuk isn't speaking enuf and you're focusing too much on writing.

Tell the parent that this particular prodigy is focusing too much on speaking at the expense of writing.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, you may want to give her some methods to deal with her daughter's dylexia. Or, you may want to tell her that you are very worried that her daughter may be suffering from a severe genetic flaw called "retardedness," which you believe she gets from her mother. Or, maybe the best thing to tell her is to tell her daughter that she is doing well and that you are, too. She probably expects the "princess" to be speaking flawlessly overnight. Tell her that there are more important things to worry about. Like maybe your and her daughter's self-esteem. Keeeeh-rist!
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I smacked a kid after he smacked another kid and then his mom came to school. Part of the punishment people in my position are suppsed to receive is having to sit rapt through a Korean only dirty look lecture about how bad hitting kids is. The lecture is supposed to last about 25 minutes and the parent is not required to acknowledge the presence of the offending teacher. I wasn't convincingly rapt and I drank a Coke during the episode. This required one more lecture along the same lines.
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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Location: In My Skin

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok...so i should expect a dirty look lecture?? ok...umm....how am i supposed to act in these...i mean, just to pass the time.....and not to give away that I really don't care or plan on kissing any ass??
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d503



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Location: Daecheong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had a couple of these I tell them the truth, it works and for the most part it will be your translator who is just making you seem very nice and apologetic.

Tell them that it is not your policy to correct student workbooks during class. That you teach the lesson and use the workbooks as a tool for reinforcement. And that you are glad her mother is going over the workbooks as it its an excellent way to reinforce the day's lessons.

ANd try not to look too bored.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to try mentioning that 6 year olds have crappy hand-writing and that making well-formed letters is a process. You thought the kid was doing OK for this stage of development and that refinement will come later.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use the opportunity.

Agree with the mother. Tell her you would like her daughter to write out the alphabet 5 times every night for a week....if the mother could check it then you would check it the next day too.

You could point out that many people have trouble with g's, p's, 9's and any others you can think of.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Use the opportunity.

Agree with the mother. Tell her you would like her daughter to write out the alphabet 5 times every night for a week....if the mother could check it then you would check it the next day too.

You could point out that many people have trouble with g's, p's, 9's and any others you can think of.


Agreed. Honestly, use this constuctively. If you think you need "X" amount of time in class to teach writing, get the boss to agree to it in the meeting.

Um.. otherwise, if you're not really interested in teaching her kid to write... why are you there? (honest question, no trolling)
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Grotto wrote:
Use the opportunity.

Agree with the mother. Tell her you would like her daughter to write out the alphabet 5 times every night for a week....if the mother could check it then you would check it the next day too.

You could point out that many people have trouble with g's, p's, 9's and any others you can think of.


Agreed. Honestly, use this constuctively. If you think you need "X" amount of time in class to teach writing, get the boss to agree to it in the meeting.

Um.. otherwise, if you're not really interested in teaching her kid to write... why are you there? (honest question, no trolling)


Actually, using a native speaker to correct writing mistakes is a serious waste of a native speaker teacher! Any Korean English teacher (in fact, pretty much any Korean over 10 years old and under 45) knows how to write English properly. Native speakers are there to teach listening, speaking and pronounciation.

I wouldn't sweat this situation too much. You might have a nice conversation with this mother and she might agree that it makes more sense for her to correct stuff like that. Or, she might be a witch, in which case you can just keep smiling and explaining your position and say that you'll try to correct her daughter's work more critically from now on -- emphasising TRY.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote
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Actually, using a native speaker to correct writing mistakes is a serious waste of a native speaker teacher! Any Korean English teacher (in fact, pretty much any Korean over 10 years old and under 45) knows how to write English properly. Native speakers are there to teach listening, speaking and pronounciation.


Sorry dear you are way off base on this one. I teach in an elementary school and a vast majority of the students cannot write worth a damn.

The Korean teachers I work with would be hard pressed to write a proper paragraph without any errors.

One of the biggest problems in Korea is the board of educations failure to have a qualified proofreader check out their textbooks before they are published. They are full of spelling, grammer and context errors.

Did you know that Americans are jealous of how Koreans treat their elderly? I would be amazed if many Americans, Canadians or Italians(there ya go IG) knew much about Korea's family system.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
tzechuk wrote
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Actually, using a native speaker to correct writing mistakes is a serious waste of a native speaker teacher! Any Korean English teacher (in fact, pretty much any Korean over 10 years old and under 45) knows how to write English properly. Native speakers are there to teach listening, speaking and pronounciation.


Sorry dear you are way off base on this one. I teach in an elementary school and a vast majority of the students cannot write worth a damn.

The Korean teachers I work with would be hard pressed to write a proper paragraph without any errors.

One of the biggest problems in Korea is the board of educations failure to have a qualified proofreader check out their textbooks before they are published. They are full of spelling, grammer and context errors.

Did you know that Americans are jealous of how Koreans treat their elderly? I would be amazed if many Americans, Canadians or Italians(there ya go IG) knew much about Korea's family system.


You quoted me, but you credited Tzechuk.

Anyway, I should have clarified that I was talking about printing the alphabet, not writing (as in compositions, etc.). My bad -- although if you check which thread we're in, you probably could have guessed what I meant Wink

I agree that native speakers are very helpful for teaching writing to students who can already print the alphabet Very Happy
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