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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: Korean music is competitive? |
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On the Wiki here:
http://korea.wikicities.com/wiki/Korean_music
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| Korean pop music is by and large not that impressive. You can find impressive bands here and there. |
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Korean pop music is by and large competitive and you can find impressive bands here and there. |
the other day. Checking the ip, it was somebody in Colorado. I think we need to rephrase it again. Not that impressive may be a bit too negative, and competitive really doesn't mean anything. Then again, the vast majority isn't that impressive, unless you are into jazz or independant rock.
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe we need to add commercial pop music to it, and add the word 'original' also. As in Korean pop music isn't very original and the recycled nature of the songs leads to the conclusion that it isn't very competitive.
But watch out the guys and gals from VANK will be all over this page soon and nothing will sound right. |
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jaganath69
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| To the Western ear its not, but unfortunately they lap it up in China, Japan and Taiwan. |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: Pop music is crap everywhere... |
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Another unifying cultural factor...since most vapid teen store clerks or department stores only blare bland "popular" music I suppose my exposure to Korean indie or death metal bands is pretty minimal.
TV is much worse...there isn't a band in Korea that doesn't have at least 10 "Dance Theory Majors" convulssing in robotic syncopation. Sorry, I just think watching people dance is usually about as entertaining as a golf match. Korea is WAY too fond of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys. Add what passes for modern Korean fashion (fedoras, hideous combinations of pastels, mismatched pin-stripes, ripped clothes, and dresses on top of jeans) and you've got something only mindless hoards of teenagers would find entertaining. Aishi. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Korean music is competitive? |
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| mithridates wrote: |
On the Wiki here:
http://korea.wikicities.com/wiki/Korean_music
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| Korean pop music is by and large not that impressive. You can find impressive bands here and there. |
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Korean pop music is by and large competitive and you can find impressive bands here and there. |
the other day. Checking the ip, it was somebody in Colorado. I think we need to rephrase it again. Not that impressive may be a bit too negative, and competitive really doesn't mean anything. Then again, the vast majority isn't that impressive, unless you are into jazz or independant rock.
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Mith, I agree. "Competitive" means what? Does the author mean that in the same sense that Korean movies can be said to be "competitive" vis-a-vis Hollywood movies in terms of local box-office earnings? Or perhaps competitive vis-a-vis other countries' films in international competitions? In reference to a country's popular music, though, it's fairly cryptic.
"...unless you are into jazz or independent rock..."
Okay, but then you're not talking about Korean pop music anymore. You're stating a subjective preference: "I, Mithridates, am impressed more by Korean jazz and independent rock than I am by Korean pop music." |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Korean music is competitive? |
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| mithridates wrote: |
Then again, the vast majority isn't that impressive, unless you are into jazz or independant rock.
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lets not be too narrow minded here. The music scene has seen a recent surge of good artists, with the exception of pop. Ragga/Reggae, Punk, R&B and Hip Hop all have some good artists. The electronic scene is also starting to develop. There are many good djs who are doing loads of interesting stuff. |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Surely there's no more vapid musical form on the planet than Korean hip-hop. These guys suffered for their music in the ghetto? Shallow and imitative doesn't begin to describe that glurge. Clearly a vast quantity of LSD needs to be dumped into the local water supply. Then we might witness some real creativity. |
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gang ah jee
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Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Korean music is competitive, just maybe not to you. In Vietnam they remake Vietnamese versions of Korean songs. There's been a few times where I've heard the start of a Korean track, got all excited, then realised all the lyrics had been translated into Vietnamese. |
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Hyalucent
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| I would read that as "competitive" to break into. Millions of pretty-faces and dance steppers compete to catch the eye of the record execs who will manufacture only a chosen few. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| hyalucent wrote: |
| I would read that as "competitive" to break into. Millions of pretty-faces and dance steppers compete to catch the eye of the record execs who will manufacture only a chosen few. |
Yes, I suppose it could be read that way, but (1) that's generally true wherever you go and isn't unique to the Korean pop music scene (I'm talking about making it really big; not claiming that countries don't have their cult-status pop artists), and (2) I don't think that's what the author actually meant to say. And even if I'm wrong about (2), it should be rephrased: "The Korean pop music business/industry/scene is highly competitive..." and maybe toss in some sort of example to illustrate why it's unusually competitive vis-a-vis other countries. Otherwise, it sounds like you're stating the obvious. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| coolsage wrote: |
| Surely there's no more vapid musical form on the planet than Korean hip-hop. These guys suffered for their music in the ghetto? Shallow and imitative doesn't begin to describe that glurge. Clearly a vast quantity of LSD needs to be dumped into the local water supply. Then we might witness some real creativity. |
thats the dumbest thing ever... a large majority of rappers in the states are from middle income families anyway... it aint all ghetto. and what makes you think alot of the Koreans think that too?? maybe the crap that you have heard does, but there is alot that never makes it on the radio or tv. |
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itaewonguy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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there are alot of great Korean songs! writers, singers bands etc...
most of the real talent is underground and they just do concerts! most of foreigners would not have even heard of them! but koreans know them!
I have heard many Fantastic songs!
mainstream pop in korea is just becoming Eye candy! its a market for fame, envy, celebrity! they need to fill the quota for many reason!
of course 90% of them cant sing! but they do there job! |
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