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mind_body_and_seoul
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Location: Gangnam
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 Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: Save The Whales! Join the virtual march in South Korea! |
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Hey! Please visit this website and join the virtual march to save the whales!
http://whales.greenpeace.org/
The International Whaling Commission will come to Ulsan, South Korea, to decide the fate of the whales on June 19. Visit Greenpeace�s website and join the virtual march and we can stop the construction of a whale slaughtering factory in Korea. We all know South Korea is better than this and we need to show them how we feel about the internationally illegal mass murder of endangered whales for profit.
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skindleshanks
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm all for saving endangered whales.
But where can you get good muktuk around here? I don't care for the whale meat at the festivals, but I would like to see if Koreans eat the skin, like the Inuit do. We used to have some good beluga muktuk every Christmas eve ... one of the things I miss most about home . . . |
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AdamH
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
Location: Bachman Turner Overdrive...Let's Rock!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| A virtual march? That's just plain lazy! Get out and do some real exercise before you become a whale yourself. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| AdamH wrote: |
| A virtual march? That's just plain lazy! Get out and do some real exercise before you become a whale yourself. |
Unfortunately I have to agree. I want the whales to be spared but I really doubt the effectiveness of this Internet campaign. |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:22 am Post subject: Something fishy about whaling... |
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Skindleshanks said:
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| I'm all for saving endangered whales. |
"Background: The south-eastern coastline of Korea is a critical migratory habitat for at least two populations of threatened or endangered whales: 1) the Western Pacific or ��Korean�� gray whale, considered the most endangered population of whales in the world; and 2) the Yellow Sea/East Sea/Sea of Japan stock of minke whales (referred to as the ��J�� stock), considered a protection stock by the International Whaling Commission (IWC) because of commercial hunting prior to the 1986 moratorium."
Found at:
http://www.sbs.auckland.ac.nz/research/ecolevol/baker/symposium/index.htm
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Skindleshanks said:
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| But where can you get good muktuk around here? |
I don't know about muktuk, but I once went to a fairly ordinary mid-high price hweh restaurant in a suburb of Gwangju (Jeollanam-do), and was offered three pieces of whale meat for free for dessert. I don't think it's difficult to find.
Skindleshanks said:
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| I don't care for the whale meat at the festivals, but I would like to see if Koreans eat the skin, like the Inuit do. We used to have some good beluga muktuk every Christmas eve ... one of the things I miss most about home . . . |
Yeah, okay. The thing is, this whole publicity campaign run by Greenpeace and the local Korean anti-whaling group is not so much about the Inuit and the whales they catch. In my reading of it all, it's more about the fact that Japan thinks it's so far above the rest of the world that it can take what it wants, and lie, cheat and steal to do so; and, it's about encouraging Korea to avoid going down that same path, but rather see the benefits of sustainable relationships with whales ie. whale watching as a source of tourist income.
"Japan wrote itself a permit to go scientific whaling in 1986. Last year, it caught 600 minke whales, 50 Bryde��s whales, 100 sei whales (a species listed as endangered on the International Union for the Conservation of Nature��s ��Red List�� of threatened species) and three sperm whales.
"Last month, Japanese media reported that the Japan Fisheries Agency (JFA) would increase its take to over 900 minkes, and add 50 humpback and 50 fin whales (another endangered species) to the annual haul. ...
... "After feeding all summer in the Antarctic, southern humpbacks migrate past New Zealand to Australia and the South Pacific, where they mate, gave birth and support a booming whale-watching industry. In Australia last year, 1.6 million tourists went whale-watching, and spent $A29m doing it. Globally, whale-watching returns more than $US1 billion from more than nine million sightseers every year.
��These are highly migratory species,�� says Donoghue. ��They��re the heritage of all humankind. Therefore, if anybody is going to exploit them, there needs to be a consensus.
By Dave Hansford in the New Zealand Listener, May 28 2005, pp. 24-27
Please feel free to PM me if you'd like to read the entire contents of this article. I won't publish it on the net due to respect for copyright.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Have you read 'Moby Dick'?
Best to get them before they get you. Like the terrorists.
Sparkles*_* |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: Funny-bunny! |
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Sparkles said:
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Have you read 'Moby_Dick'?
Best to get them before they get you. Like the terrorists. |
Haa ha. 
Hey, do you speak much hunggul-goh?
They could use someone with a bit of a sense of humour there in Ulsan.
I just talked to someone there at the Whale Embassy last night, and apparently they get hundreds, if not thousands of people coming through each weekend. It sounds like they need all the help they can get, particularly in the weekends.
Now, I'm not saying you should neglect your duty amusing the good readers of Dave's Cafe, and nor that we are less worthy a cause as subjects for your powers of good humour (... some may even say esl teachers in Korea are a threatened species...!)
I am saying that you seem a bit bored, and, also, worthy of a good challenge. If you're up for it, check out some of the links posted previously.
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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this makes me very angry! why are they whaling at all. stupid, $%#^&$#@!!!
i wonder if there will be a real protest? actually i think i'm just going to go down and protest myself. would anyone like to join me? |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| paperbag princess wrote: |
this makes me very angry! why are they whaling at all. stupid, $%#^&$#@!!!
i wonder if there will be a real protest? actually i think i'm just going to go down and protest myself. would anyone like to join me? |
only if we can stop for baby sealburgers on the way. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:03 am Post subject: |
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This thread was right next to this one:
Ladies? Are you told that you are FAT?
Coincidence? I think not.
Heh heh heh (cue in Beavis & Butthead) |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject: Feeding time |
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paperbag princess wrote:
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this makes me very angry! why are they whaling at all. stupid, $%#^&$#@!!!
i wonder if there will be a real protest? actually i think i'm just going to go down and protest myself. would anyone like to join me? |
endofthewor1d reckoned:
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| only if we can stop for baby sealburgers on the way. |
Nah, the fur gets stuck in your teeth, and the grilled flipper-bits are just TOO rubbery.
Try a good fry-up of fish-fingers and student-toes. (imm... crunchy...!)
While you're picking the toe-nails out from between your teeth, have a bit of a read:
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/koreawhales/ |
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julian_w
Joined: 08 Sep 2003
Location: Somewhere beyond Middle Peak Hotel, north of Middle Earth, and well away from the Middle of the Road
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: Internets, not Fishing nets! |
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AdamH wrote:
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| A virtual march? That's just plain lazy! Get out and do some real exercise before you become a whale yourself. |
red dog woofed:
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| Unfortunately I have to agree. I want the whales to be spared but I really doubt the effectiveness of this Internet campaign. |
It's easy to doubt. It's even easier to find other excuses for doing nothing.
The thing that gets me though is that having gone all around the world to find work for yourself in Korea, I can't agree that it's hard to get on a bus, train or plane and go down there to support your own grandkids' ability to see whales in the future.
Or, to check on the effectiveness of the abovementioned internet campaign.
Even tho the likes of it have worked wonders before.
It's fairly ironic that people who are obviously communicating so effectively here online are doubting ... ahh... what is it again... the effectiveness of the internet to convey effective communication... ...?!
 LOL !!!  |
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