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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: One More Problem With Diversity |
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| In the recent Miss Universe, Germany had an open enough mind to send a Turk - German female to the contest. Thats fine but doesn't actions like that result in less diversity? There were two Turk females and no Germans and that is nothing but less diversity made in the name of making more diversity. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually she was of IRANIAN descent, NOT Turkish. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Really, I heard she was Turk. |
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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| It's about time such evants move into the 21st century... |
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sonofthedarkstranger
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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1. Germany has Turks, Iranians, etc. Turkey and Iran have few if any Germans.
2. The pagaent is about nationality, not ethnicity. You don't have Ms. Chinese and Ms. Irish--you have Ms. China and Ms. Ireland.
3. Perhaps the german judges saw all the contestants and concluded that the most beautiful (or most likely to win) was the Iranian one.
4. Germany in particular has a certain image it would like to overcome. Let's just say it doesn't have the shiniest record of race relations.
5. I thought you didn't like diversity. So why aren't you jumping for joy that "more diversity" ended up meaning "less diveristy?" I thought you wanted less diversity. Oh wait, that's right...all you mean by that is that you want to see non-whites disappear. |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:32 am Post subject: |
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This is the power of "Diversity". As long as you come out with a politically correct accusation, you can morph the definiton of diversity into whatever you want it to be to support your argument.
From what I've learned here, if every Miss Universe contestant is of Tutkish Ethnicity, that would be fine. However, if every Miss U contestant were White coloured, that would be wrong and it would be game to say that the Miss U pageant should be bought into the "21st Century".
The pageant is about looks. Looks are about ethnicity. Preserving diversity means preserving racial purity and identity. Its uncomfortable for you to look at and you feel that your virtue should win all of these arguments. Tsk tsk.
Turkey also had a genocide and in fact that genocide inspired Hitler to pursue his. The Turks got away with it, Why not Germany? Today even, holocaust denial is alive and well as long as its a PC holocaust. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:40 am Post subject: ... |
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http://www.dancewithshadows.com/society/miss-germany-europe.asp
If anyone is interested.
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| Preserving diversity means preserving racial purity and identity. |
This after the statement:
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| As long as you come out with a politically correct accusation, you can morph the definiton of diversity into whatever you want it to be to support your argument. |
Someone points out to this BOZO that she is not Turkish, and he yammers on about Turkish genocide.
Speaking of genocide, BOZO, when was the last time a Native American won Miss America or Miss Universe?
An Aborigine Miss Australia?
This must trouble you a lot, especially since you're pathetic enough to cite a beauty pageant as a problem with diversity.
The Turkish genocide was an interesting fact to point out.
I learned something. That's what I like about this forum.
However, given that it has nothing to do with your original point, and that your original point lacks any substance at all (along with virtually every post you put in CE), you still maintain the rank of BOZO.
PM me for your button. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| And the winner of the contest was an ethnically Russian Canadian... |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| And the winner of the contest was an ethnically Russian Canadian... |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: ... |
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| For shame. The racial purity of it all... |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Race is an idea isn't it? OK it's a fact. But only important because people think it's important?
Nothing really pure about it.
Maybe the only pure ideas are purely mathematical or something?
(jajdude attempts philosophical thinking, and fails miserably...
the lesson is, never think.... ) |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Most of the contestants looked the same anyway . . .
If this site conducted our tournament by numbering the candidates instead of giving their nationality, I think we'd have a few surprises. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| The pageant is about looks. Looks are about ethnicity. Preserving diversity means preserving racial purity and identity. Its uncomfortable for you to look at and you feel that your virtue should win all of these arguments. Tsk tsk. |
There is a forum where you can discuss this to your heart's content.
www.stormfront.org 
They love discussing the merits of racial purity there. |
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sonofthedarkstranger
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with attempting to debate with most white supremacists is that their thoughts are so incoherent and incohesive that there's really nothing to latch onto and attack. It's just the raw emotion of hatred with a few flimsy fragments of various different inchoate pseudo-arguments scotch-taped together to dress it up to make it look like something when it's nothing...it's very hard to know how to reply to such idiocy. I can address an argument, but this? There's nothing to it, nothing holding it together but the premise itself. What is duloz saying here, other than "I don't like them mud people!!"
What the slightest connection between Turkey's genocide in the 1920s, and the Ms. Universe pagaent in 2005 with an Iranian Ms. Germany is, I haven't the slightest clue. Probably because there is none. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sonofthedarkstranger wrote: |
The problem with attempting to debate with most white supremacists is that their thoughts are so incoherent and incohesive that there's really nothing to latch onto and attack. It's just the raw emotion of hatred with a few flimsy fragments of various different inchoate pseudo-arguments scotch-taped together to dress it up to make it look like something when it's nothing...it's very hard to know how to reply to such idiocy. I can address an argument, but this? There's nothing to it, nothing holding it together but the premise itself. What is duloz saying here, other than "I don't like them mud people!!"
What the slightest connection between Turkey's genocide in the 1920s, and the Ms. Universe pagaent in 2005 with an Iranian Ms. Germany is, I haven't the slightest clue. Probably because there is none. |
I'm actually chiding the OP for using such a term as racial purity. I would in no way endorse stormfront and you are absolutely right that arguing with white nationalists is like banging your head against a wall. |
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