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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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A whole week, huh?
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Yeah, a whole week. But then I'm a quick study. How long do you have to listen to crap before you turn it off? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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But the BBC (British) and just about every media source that comes out of Canada is so *beep* biased.. its mind-warping uneducated Canadians to degrees that the FOX news network would be envious of. |
you think the BBC is biased? I'd say its the most professional english-language news service out there. |
I think its misleading.
Everytime they go 'poll' Americans.. they go to Arkansas or some weird place and go interview the strangest of Americans with the strangest of accents and try to pass them off as the typical American of the country.
It definetely explains why when travelling you meet some weird Brit who assumes you are as dumb as nails by owning an American passport and registers extreme shock when he discovers you otherwise.
I've also had brits approach me before saying.. 'oh excuse me, can you.... oh.. you sound like an American.. I don't like Americans.. nevermind'.
Sadly, the mass majority of people actually learn from their TV.. the BBC included.
I've also been annoyed when the BBC goes to report some human rights tradegies and continually says to its audience 'what is the US going to do about this?'.. and make the US out to sound like moronic selfish people.. as opposed to US TV where they fundraise the living hell out of the people until they get the $$. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
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But the BBC (British) and just about every media source that comes out of Canada is so *beep* biased.. its mind-warping uneducated Canadians to degrees that the FOX news network would be envious of. |
you think the BBC is biased? I'd say its the most professional english-language news service out there. |
I think its misleading.
Everytime they go 'poll' Americans.. they go to Arkansas or some weird place and go interview the strangest of Americans with the strangest of accents and try to pass them off as the typical American of the country.
It definetely explains why when travelling you meet some weird Brit who assumes you are as dumb as nails by owning an American passport and registers extreme shock when he discovers you otherwise.
I've also had brits approach me before saying.. 'oh excuse me, can you.... oh.. you sound like an American.. I don't like Americans.. nevermind'.
Sadly, the mass majority of people actually learn from their TV.. the BBC included.
I've also been annoyed when the BBC goes to report some human rights tradegies and continually says to its audience 'what is the US going to do about this?'.. and make the US out to sound like moronic selfish people.. as opposed to US TV where they fundraise the living hell out of the people until they get the $$. |
Strange thing about the Beeb is that both parties in UK complain about bias towards the other. I'd say that was balanced.
Now, Beeb and Arkansas polls: do you a have a link or two?
As to fundraising, the US gives the smallest percentage as foreign aid of any developed nation, and only one-fifth of what the Scandinavian conutries give. (US is less than 0.2% of GDP).
So, for balanced world reporting, which do you watch in US? Fox News? CNN? Others? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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I wonder if a similar study has been done on how Canada or Britain for that matter are portrayed in the American media.
Yes, the CBC has a left of center bias, but that is not the same as being "anti-American".
Since when has having a preference for Kerry been considered "anti-American"?
Last I heard, democracies allow people to choose which candidate they prefer.
I think the author of that article needs to distinguish between comments that are anti-war and are pro-Canadian. I don't agree that these things constitute an "anti-American" bias.
Just as an example, Canada and America have had an ongoing dispute over the trading of softwood lumber, with Canada following the rules set out in the NAFTA agreement and the Americans consistantly refusing to follow the agreement they signed. Do you expect the CBC to just report that everything is "hunky dory" and side with the American government on issues like this?
Of course the Canadian media will express a Canadian bias.
Why on earth shouldn't they? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer:
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I've also had brits approach me before saying.. 'oh excuse me, can you.... oh.. you sound like an American.. I don't like Americans.. nevermind'.
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Don't take it too hard, TB. The more complicit Britian becomes in American imperialism, the louder nationalistic Brits scream about how much they dislike Americans as a people. Then they turn around and vote pro-war, muttering all sorts of excuses about "we had no choice" or "Blair's doing a great job otherwise".
Kinda like pathetic housewives who complain about how awful the neighbourhood wh*re is, in lieu of having the courage to dump their philandering husbands.
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Ditto.
The Fraser Institute.  |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Why on earth shouldn't they? |
"If you're not with us you're against us" didn't Bush use words to that effect? That's probably why they shouldn't according to some people. South Korea has played that card against its own people really well over the years- "Striking for better conditions is treason because we're still at war and you're sabotaging the economy!!!"
If you criticize the US while at war you're aiding the enemy, right? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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So by that line of reasoning, is everyone who voted Democrat a traitor?
I understand that logic, but it's a false line of reasoning in my view.
First of all, Canada is not the US and we don't have to do everything Bush says.
Canada is not at war.
There is a huge difference between criticizing the current administration
and supporting the enemy.
If the Bush administration can't take a little bit of good ol' Canadian whining then .......... sheeshk.
This is just more BS. The current administration has been successful in controling the American media, and it bothers them to see Canadians speak their own mind.
I hope this isn't a foreshadowing of things to come.... as in American control and censorship on Canadian media.  |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| So by that line of reasoning, is everyone who voted Democrat a traitor? |
I'm sure some people would view it that way.
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| I understand that logic, but it's a false line of reasoning in my view. |
I agree. To make things perfectly clear, the opinions in my previous post are not mine. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| As to fundraising, the US gives the smallest percentage as foreign aid of any developed nation, and only one-fifth of what the Scandinavian conutries give. (US is less than 0.2% of GDP). |
Foreign aid to developed nations. Thats a big issue.. as Scandinavian countries are enormously wealthy.. and they make a lot of their wealth on 'foreign aid' in the name of development projects.. its an extremely corrupt system. If the US did it to a % of GDP that Scandinavia does.. the entire thing would come to the surface as the major scam that it is.
Almost all the involvement by Scandinavian development agencies has kickback ramifications.. build a dam in Africa.. bring in a bunch of Swedish researchers and firms to examine the project.. then loan the money to the '3rd world nation' to buy all the cement and logging companies again from that Scandinavian nation.. on and on and on. Thats what Scandinavian % of GNP money goes towards.
Its extremely messed up.. not a desireable thing to have those high numbers going to development in 3rd world countries. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 7:33 am Post subject: |
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A whole week, huh?
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Yeah, a whole week. But then I'm a quick study. How long do you have to listen to crap before you turn it off? |
Well, they report. I decide. |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: Re: CBC Stokes Anti-Americanism |
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| I think the report is bull. The CBC is one of the few news sources that is simply critical against everything, especially our own government. Too bad more news agencies cannot be like the CBC... |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| its mind-warping uneducated Canadians to degrees that the FOX news network would be envious of. |
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Map & Graph: Education: Reading literacy (Top 50 Countries)
Definition: Reading literacy mean value of performance scale (15 years old, 2000)
Amount
1. Finland 546
2. Canada 534
3. New Zealand 529
4. Australia 528
5. Ireland 527
6. Korea, South 525
7. United Kingdom 523
8. Japan 522
9. Sweden 516
10. Belgium 507
11. Iceland 507
12. Austria 507
13. France 505
14. Norway 505
15. United States 504 |
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ca/Education
I think that would be us at number 2 and you down at 15. Who's uneducated?
Now, go to www.cbc.ca, search USA you get this:
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Banned in the USA - Gordon Lightfoot: Canada's Folk Laureate - CBC ...
U.S. radio stations ban Lightfoot's Black Day In July.
archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-74-743-4740/people/gordon_lightfoot/clip3
Banned in the USA - Gordon Lightfoot: Canada's Folk Laureate - CBC ...
U.S. radio stations ban Lightfoot's Black Day In July.
archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-68-743-4740/arts_entertainment/gordon_lightfoot/clip3
CBC.ca - Weather
All US Cities. ...
www.cbc.ca/weather/map.jsp?region=usa
CBC Sports: USA bounced from basketball worlds
USA bounced from basketball worlds. WebPosted ... On Wednesday, Team USA wound up trailing
wire-to-wire in an 87-80 upset loss to Argentina. "Last ...
www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2002/09/05/Sports/usa-yugoslavia020905
CBC Sports: USA eliminated at hockey worlds
USA eliminated at hockey worlds. WebPosted Thu, 12 May 2005 14:49:54 EDT
CBC Sports. For the second straight year, the Czechs found ...
www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2005/05/12/Sports/teamusa050512.html
[ More results from www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national ]
CBC News Indepth: US Election 2004
US Election 2004
www.cbc.ca/news/background/uselection2004/
2002 FIFA World Cup - Teams - USA
Head Coach: Bruce Arena. » Brad Friedel G » Kasey Keller G » Tony Meola
G » Jeff Agoos D » Gregg Berhalter D » Frankie Hejduk ...
www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/teams/usa.html
2002 FIFA World Cup
Claudio Reyna - USA. Position: M Birthdate: July 20, 1973 Club: Sunderland
(English Premier League). Most observers reckon that the ...
www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/playerprofile_reyna.html
CBC Toronto - Features - Staring Down the Barrel
CBC.ca Toronto. Main, Features, Programs, Community, Weather,
Audio / Video, Contact, Other Local Sites. ...
www.cbc.ca/toronto/features/staring/ellwand.html
CBC.ca - Athens 2004 - CBC Sports: Team Canada women win gold
... Despite losing all eight exhibition meetings in the past year by a combined score
of 31-13, Team Canada beat Team USA when it mattered most, 3-2 in the gold ...
www.cbc.ca/story/olympics/national/2002/02/22/Sports/usa-canada020221.html |
Go to Fox, search Canada you get this:
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'Into the West' Is Major TV 'Event' - Saturday, June 11, 2005 - NEW YORK — This is a TV event that aims to be as big as its story....
Official: G-8 Ministers OK $40B Debt Relief - Saturday, June 11, 2005 - LONDON — The world's richest countries agreed Saturday on a historic deal to write off more than $40 billion of debt owed by the...
Clementina Cantoni, a Friend in Trouble - Saturday, June 11, 2005 - EDITOR'S NOTE: Italian aid worker Clementina Cantoni was freed Thursday by the kidnappers who had been holding her hostage for more than...
U.S. Checking Possible Mad Cow Case - Friday, June 10, 2005 - WASHINGTON — The government is checking a possible case of mad cow disease in the United States in an animal previously cleared of...
Chain Saw Man Bragged He Had '700 Kills' - Friday, June 10, 2005 - TORONTO — A chain saw-wielding man who U.S. authorities allowed to enter the United States boasted he was a "trained sniper with over...
Ipsos Poll: Consumer Confidence Rebounds - Friday, June 10, 2005 - WASHINGTON — Consumer confidence rebounded over the past month as people felt better about current economic conditions as well as...
G-8 Mulls Debt Relief for Poor Nations - Friday, June 10, 2005 - LONDON — Britain and the United States have overcome their differences over debt relief, setting the stage Friday for a potentially...
Graffiti Wall - Friday, June 10, 2005 - Add your comment to the wall....
Matthew Perry to Host ESPY Awards - Friday, June 10, 2005 - LOS ANGELES — Matthew Perry (search), a former junior tennis player in his native Canada, is going back to the sports world as host of...
Citigroup Paying $2B to Settle Enron Suit - Friday, June 10, 2005 - NEW YORK — Citigroup Inc. (C) said Friday it will pay $2 billion to Enron Corp. shareholders who accused it of helping the energy...
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I see good, bad and neutral stories in both news services. Once again, stop patronising Canadians. There are plenty of Murkehns who ain't book-smart. |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: Re: CBC Stokes Anti-Americanism |
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| I think the report is bull. The CBC is one of the few news sources that is simply critical against everything, especially our own government. Too bad more news agencies cannot be like the CBC... |
I agree. The CBC has covered the Liberal scandals (Gomery Inquiry) very well. How much coverage did the Downing Street Memo get in the US? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Well, they report. I decide |
I claim the same right. |
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