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guangho



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
guangho wrote:
June 2005: "Americans turn against Bush."

And this matters at the present junction because....


....because the world doesn't need get stuck with yet another Bush for the next pres. term---Jeb.
That would surely please his mummy and daddy wouldn't it.


Americans didn't get "stuck" with Bush. They took a look at his record and said "hey this is great! Let's vote for him again!" And sure enough, they did. Choices have consequences.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A study was commissioned a few years ago that showed that people working for the major media outlets were democrats by a huge percentage (70-80%), and that they mostly held liberal views on social issues.

I'll try to dig it out.


Don't bother. I'm not interested in how many media people are registered with which party. I want evidence that the media is biased.

It is quite possible to be a member of any party and still make an effort to report news objectively. I want substantive evidence that there is bias. I don't accept right wing complaints that they are victims because I don't accept whining as legitimate evidence.
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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A study was commissioned a few years ago that showed that people working for the major media outlets were democrats by a huge percentage (70-80%), and that they mostly held liberal views on social issues.

I'll try to dig it out.

Don't bother. I'm not interested in how many media people are registered with which party. I want evidence that the media is biased.

It is quite possible to be a member of any party and still make an effort to report news objectively. I want substantive evidence that there is bias. I don't accept right wing complaints that they are victims because I don't accept whining as legitimate evidence.

Best possible response to a very common and very silly notion. The rightwingers say the words "liberal media bias" so may times it becomes a meme that is accepted as true with no evidence necessary, and when asked for such kind of support, they usually say something like "I'll get back to yiou ..."

Tiresome, it is.
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brento1138



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Americans Turn Against Bush Reply with quote

R. S. Refugee wrote:

Americans Turn Against Bush and a War
on Iraq that is Getting Nowhere

by Andrew Gumbel

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=645323


americans turn against bush? finally!! how's that guy still in power anyways????
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today there are 1,316 days to go.

Tomorrow there will be only 1,315 days.

The flame of hope yet burns.
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R. S. Refugee



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Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Today there are 1,316 days to go.

Tomorrow there will be only 1,315 days.

The flame of hope yet burns.


Isn't that something prisoners do? Count the days till they get out?

Except for the prisoners in the American "Gulag", of course, who have no idea when or if they'll ever be free again. Sad
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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how's that guy still in power anyways????


Unless death, resignation or conviction on an impeachable offense intervenes, he will be in office until Jan. 20, 2009.
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guangho



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:


Unless death, resignation or conviction on an impeachable offense intervenes, he will be in office until Jan. 20, 2009.


Or beyond if the 22nd amendment is repealed or the constitution is suspended.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or beyond if the 22nd amendment is repealed or the constitution is suspended.



My, you're a pessimist. I don't think an amendment can be passed that fast...certainly not one that would grant a privilege to someone as controversial as the Shrub.

I suppose he could suspend the Constitution. It's never happened before, but there is always a first time I guess.

Polls go up and down and right now he's down. His Social Security plans are really hurting him and there is no sign he's going to change his plans. The death toll in Iraq is also hurting his popularity and there is no sign that is going to change any time soon. On top of that, second terms are not successful and he's just a few months into the term. I'm waiting for a big juicy scandal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ya-ta Boy



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