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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: Air/Con: a rant |
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| My colleague and I were sweating through some marking of uni writing papers today, huddling close to the fans, when he remarked," Do you suppose the Korean professors have Aircon?" I replied that I hadn't a clue, never have been invited into the plush offices that the K/profs occupy. As we were leaving the building, it was evident that every K/prof office had an aircon unit, and every foreign/prof office had none. Now I've been willing to overlook, if not ignore, the fact that the K/profs got flowers on Teachers' Day and we got none, and to gloss over the notion that the KPs got hi-tech key entry to their offices, or that they KPs get sumptuous furnishings for their offices while we're still digging desks and chairs off the midnight pile on the street. All this I can come to terms with, although it doesn't enhance my esteem for the Korean experience, but to learn that a foreign teacher is not worthy of the aircon that's available to everyone else, now that's a bitter one to swallow. Do we not perspire? Aren't we the ones seeking out black-market deodorant in order not to gross out those around us? Thank the gods that vacation is due. I'm almost burned out on this situation. The blatant hypocrisy with which the Chairman mouths the obligatory phrases at the obligatory meeting: "We'd like to thank you for your hard work here, yadda yadda.." They have a twisted way of showing it. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| We don't even get photocopier paper where I work. There is, however, air-con. We do all the lifting, they get the "respect." Sort of. They are drones, too, basically. They have to pass students that don't deserve it all the time, too. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: |
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This might be something to put in future contracts: Foreign teachers will get all the creature comforts that Korean teachers get.
On the other hand, with no air con you are spared the annual argument over cool vs fresh air that we always had with our K co-teachers. They always insisted on opening the windows while the air con was on--just the opposite of the annual winter argument over warm vs fresh air when they would open the windows while we were freezing. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| coolsage wrote: |
| As we were leaving the building, it was evident that every K/prof office had an aircon unit, and every foreign/prof office had none. Now I've been willing to overlook, if not ignore, the fact that the K/profs got flowers on Teachers' Day and we got none, and to gloss over the notion that the KPs got hi-tech key entry to their offices, or that they KPs get sumptuous furnishings for their offices while we're still digging desks and chairs off the midnight pile on the street. All this I can come to terms with, although it doesn't enhance my esteem for the Korean experience, but to learn that a foreign teacher is not worthy of the aircon that's available to everyone else, now that's a bitter one to swallow. Do we not perspire? Aren't we the ones seeking out black-market deodorant in order not to gross out those around us? Thank the gods that vacation is due. I'm almost burned out on this situation. The blatant hypocrisy with which the Chairman mouths the obligatory phrases at the obligatory meeting: "We'd like to thank you for your hard work here, yadda yadda.." They have a twisted way of showing it. |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| We don't even get photocopier paper where I work. There is, however, air-con. We do all the lifting, they get the "respect." Sort of. They are drones, too, basically. They have to pass students that don't deserve it all the time, too. |
Foreign scholars merit equal status: The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
...foreign professors do most of the heavy lifting in terms of course loads, devoting themselves almost exclusively to teaching. Nevertheless, they tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc.... According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect.
by John B. Kotch, JoongAng Ilbo (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/2002...0090109011.html
"No chair for foreigner" GM Daewoo head told
.... The "no-foreigners" rule was first made in 2001 when then-Samsung Motor was being sold to Renault.
by Kim Tae-jin and Lee Ho-jeong, JoongAng Daily (January 18, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200501/17/200501172228551609900090509051.html
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Ex-pats Describe Korea's Culture of Corruption
by Kim Hong-jin, Chosun Ilbo (December 16, 2004)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200412/200412160027.html
However, do not forget
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Perhaps those working in Universities are only adjunct instructers teaching as little as 12 hours a week or less and getting up to 5 months paid vacations.
Perhaps if you are unhappy with your contract, you should ask yourself why you signed it.
Perhaps if you want a higher paying job, you should apply for one.
Perhaps if you can't find a better job in Korea, you should ask yourself why you choose to remain in Korea instead of going to whatever country you think has better opportunities.
Perhaps if you can't find a better position anywhere in the world, you should be grateful for the opportunity you have in Korea. |
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Zark

Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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You can make certain assumptions about benefits - such as A/C - but they may not always be true.
Most Korean professors at my uni have A/C but they paid for their units themselves. I'd buy A/C too if I thought I was going to stay a long time. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Zark wrote: |
| You can make certain assumptions about benefits - such as A/C - but they may not always be true. Most Korean professors at my uni have A/C but they paid for their units themselves. I'd buy A/C too if I thought I was going to stay a long time. |
Zark,
Did you consider that most Korean professors receive office maintenance pay? Do you think that some Korean professors receive a significant number of benefits and perks?
Corrupt professors common, students say
by Baek Il-hyun and Kim Ho-jeong, JoongAng Daily (April 28, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200504/27/200504272214239309900090409041.html
51 Universities Face Penalties for Fraud
Fifty-one universities and colleges face administrative and financial penalties for operational irregularities. The sanctions have been placed on around 20 percent of all colleges nationwide.
According to the authorities, SNU was given a demerit mark for diverting dues for a school-supporting association to a research fund for professors last year. The SNU insisted that using the money for professors had long been practiced, but the authorities deemed it improper during its inspection of the financial management of national universities.
By Chung Ah-young, Korea Times (April 19, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200504/kt2005041917215911970.htm
Stop corruption in academia
Editorial, JoongAng Daily (April 27, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200504/27/200504272153216879900090109011.html
Professors Cheat to Maintain SCI Scores
by Choi Won-seok, Chosun Ilbo (April 25, 2002)
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200204/200204251020.html |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you a real professor or an english instructor at a university? |
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Plume D'ella Plumeria
Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Location: The Lost Horizon
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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If I am pricked, do I not bleed?
I can understand why you might be feeling a bit disgruntled, coolsage. "Fairness" just doesn't seem to be viewed over here in quite the way some of us are used to. (Am I going to get jumped on here by the A-team??)
I have seen vastly different standards of living even among foreign colleagues. At one middle school where I worked, one of the teachers was given a beautiful, new, two bedroom villa-type apartment with air-conditioning and all sorts of other nice amenities. Others, including myself (hence my own disgruntlement), were shoveled into grubby old non-air-conditioned cells with tissue paper thin walls, behind which infants wailed and mothers shrieked. At least the mother/child combo next to me did. When the lesser privileged of us inquired as to the reason for the perceived injustice, we were told "First come, first served." In short, it was just a matter of timing. Whatever accommodation was available at the time a new teacher arrived, was given to him or her. That reason made perfect sense to those in charge (all of whom no doubt, lived in agreeably air-conditioned homes). But it didn't particularly sit well with the rest of us. Odd, that. |
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