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		SweetLou
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:04 am    Post subject:  | 
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				glad to hear people talking about Murakami. I got hooked on him after reading "Norwegian Wood," and have been slowly plowing through his catalog since (thankfully his English translations are readily available in Korea). 
 
 
"The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles" is a great book as well....I'd put it second after "Norwegian Wood". "Dance, Dance, Dance" is also really good. "Sputnik Sweetheart" is okay. 
 
 
I haven't read any of the non-fiction that he's done, yet....can anyone comment on that? | 
			 
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		Eunoia
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time" by Mark Haddon | 
	 
 
 
 
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		Tiberious aka Sparkles
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | SweetLou wrote: | 
	 
	
	  glad to hear people talking about Murakami. I got hooked on him after reading "Norwegian Wood," and have been slowly plowing through his catalog since (thankfully his English translations are readily available in Korea). 
 
 
"The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles" is a great book as well....I'd put it second after "Norwegian Wood". "Dance, Dance, Dance" is also really good. "Sputnik Sweetheart" is okay. 
 
 
I haven't read any of the non-fiction that he's done, yet....can anyone comment on that? | 
	 
 
 
 
The first 2/3 of 'Kafka on the Shore' is vintage Murakami. The final portion...ugh.
 
 
Sparkles*_* | 
			 
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		jajdude
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject:  | 
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				The only Murakami book I read was "Underground," and it's pretty good. 
 
 
Interviews people involved in the Sarin gas attacks in 1995 in Tokyo, and the "Aum Shinrikyo" cult who perpetrated the crime.
 
 
There was a show on the Discovery Channel a while ago (maybe March 20th...ten year anniversary) about that attack, but I missed it. Wonder if anyone here saw it? | 
			 
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		Hans Blix
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject:  | 
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				murakami - boring and not that smart. can't believe he's as fashionable as he is.
 
 
i have trouble finding a contremporary book worth reading, but james wood's 'the book against god' was and is one of the best novels i've read in the last few years. damned with faint praise from the critics tho. | 
			 
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		the_beaver
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:40 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | murakami - boring and not that smart. can't believe he's as fashionable as he is. | 
	 
 
 
 
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		Hans Blix
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| has anybody had a crack at 'infinite jest'? | 
			 
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		SweetLou
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I read David Foster Wallace's stuff in a lit class at university...one of the most pretentious authors I've ever read, and a little over the top with his word play (and the nine million footnotes). Although this might be up your alley  
 
 
Maybe invest in something smaller of his if you haven't read him yet, like "Broom of the System." | 
			 
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		Hans Blix
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:28 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| yeah read some of his short stories, and the ones i could keep focused on were actually quite good. there are critics and writers whose opinions i respect that say he's worthwhile, only, yeah, his verbosity is ridiculuos. but tackiling infinite jest is pretty ambitious, no? anyone done it of their own free will? | 
			 
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		Thunndarr
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | has anybody had a crack at 'infinite jest'? | 
	 
 
 
 
Good book. Way too many end notes, of course. Read it without thinking about ever finishing it, you'll probably enjoy it more that way. | 
			 
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		Emu Bitter
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject:  | 
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				Big wankfest so far.
 
Stephen King is the go.
 
Fever Pitch is also a great book, it explains why sport is the most important human activity. | 
			 
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		Sleepy in Seoul
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Martin Cruz Smith's Arkady Renko series: Gorky Park, Polar Star, Red Square, Havana Bay and the eagerly awaited (from me anyway) next in the series - Wolves Eat Dogs.  I can't wait... | 
			 
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		The Great Toad
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Don Quixote (Book One) is my favorite book.
 
I like George Martin too but I got mad when certain characters get whacked or hacked   
 
mmm sorry can't say I ever finished War and Peace The short stories I've read there was one about a tropic island where the restaurant owner makes his one Western patron Fatter and Fatter but I forgot the ending? 
 
 - I did read Kafka stuff but he is depressing.
 
I'll even admit with a bit of shame to reading Pulp Sword Fight Master RA Salvatore   
 
There is a cool book on Suicide / Culture and Literature called: The Savage God
 
and ahh lets see of Course Winnie the Pooh and Wind in the Willows (there were some add on books written for it by another author that were pretty good) - Plague Dogs, Water Ship Down and ahhh  
 
Fritz Lieber Grey Mouser and Fafrd Stories but they are ultimately a bit empty as the heroes are just jovial hedonists. | 
			 
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		krats1976
 
  
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	  Ender's Game - that's a classic, but nothing else Scott Card wrote really comes up to that standard.
 
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Have you tried the Shadow series? I like it even better than Ender's Game. Another good one to try is Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus. It's an interesting twist on 'history'. | 
			 
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		bosintang
 
  
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	  | murakami - boring and not that smart. can't believe he's as fashionable as he is. | 
	 
 
 
 
Yep. | 
	 
 
 
 
I can understand why Murakami wouldn't be for everyone, but myself, I absolutely love Murakami's short stories in The Elephant Vanishes and After the Quake.   I've read both of these books several times, however I haven't developed the same passion for his novels.  Not too many books leave a really bad taste of unfulfillment in my mouth after finishing them -- normally if I don't like a novel by the first 20-30 pages or so, I chuck it away -- but The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles was one of them.  It's the Murakami novel I wish I never read.   Yet other Murakami fans I know consider it his best work. | 
			 
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