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Congressmen say evidence exists to impeach Bush.
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Congressmen say evidence exists to impeach Bush. Reply with quote
British bombing raids were
illegal, says Foreign Office
Michael Smith
A SHARP increase in British and American bombing raids on Iraq in the run-up to war ��to put pressure on the regime�� was illegal under international law, according to leaked Foreign Office legal advice.

The advice was first provided to senior ministers in March 2002. Two months later RAF and USAF jets began ��spikes of activity�� designed to goad Saddam Hussein into retaliating and giving the allies a pretext for war.

The Foreign Office advice shows military action to pressurise the regime was ��not consistent with�� UN law, despite American claims that it was.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1660300,00.html
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Democratic congressmen claimed last week the evidence it contains is grounds for impeaching President George Bush.




That's pretty vague. Any idea who they are?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Article II

Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.



I'm neither a legal scholar nor a constitutional expert, but I'm having difficulty seeing where any of the violations mentioned in the article are covered in Article II, Section 4.

Clarifying opinions are welcome.
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dulouz



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Accusing him of being a monkey didn't go over well. The DNA test didn't come out right. After that, accusations of WAR CRIMES gets more attention.
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Emma Goldman



Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We'll see if enough congress men and women have the courage to take this all the way. And if the U.S. media has the courage to cover it adequately.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Article II

Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


I see no mention of BJ there so to have gone for Clinton, the list must have been extended.

Was it for "lying" that he was impeached but acquitted?
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Emma Goldman



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It must have been either a high crime or a miss-demeanor. Maybe both.

In America, sex can be a heinous crime, but state sanctioned violence is celebrated. This is the most extreme of perversities.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Emma Goldman wrote:
It must have been either a high crime or a miss-demeanor. Maybe both.

In America, sex can be a heinous crime, but state sanctioned violence is celebrated. This is the most extreme of perversities.


Definitely a Miss Demeanor. She was unmarried I believe? Wink
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Perjury article: William Jefferson Clinton provided "perjurious, false and misleading testimony" before Independent Counsel Ken Starr's grand jury.

Obstruction of justice article: William Jefferson Clinton obstructed justice to "delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence" related to the Jones case.

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Above are summaries of the two articles of impeachment for Clinton.

IMO the real reason behind Clinton's impeachment was that Henry Hyde was years past his prime when he had an affair and was just jealous that Bill was still getting some.

BTW, welcome Soviet...umm, er Emma.
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Emma Goldman



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Quote:
Perjury article: William Jefferson Clinton provided "perjurious, false and misleading testimony" before Independent Counsel Ken Starr's grand jury.

Obstruction of justice article: William Jefferson Clinton obstructed justice to "delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence" related to the Jones case.

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Above are summaries of the two articles of impeachment for Clinton.

IMO the real reason behind Clinton's impeachment was that Henry Hyde was years past his prime when he had an affair and was just jealous that Bill was still getting some.

BTW, welcome Soviet...umm, er Emma.


Thanks for the welcome, but it is a case of