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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| mal wrote: |
jeez... how picky you are!
Ok the koreans / brits aren't a "race" but ask any korean about their "tribe" and you get the distinct feeling that if they aren't actually a "race" they damn well want to be one! |
Yes but YOU- being an enlightened foreigner (or a brit, close enough I suppose)- should be able to rise above that rather sink down to it. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Mandatory knives in school!
I've never understood why each of my little tykes is armed with a utility knife, which he/she uses to whittle away at desks or slice up erasers. I've only ever seen them accomplish one semi-useful task: they can be an acceptable substitute for scissors.
So why not get the kids to bring scissors? |
Scissors are used for food prep! |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| mal wrote: |
you have got to be kidding me dude!! English people ruder than Koreans.....(!!) I lived in the UK for a couple of years and travelled widely and witnessed probably 3 or 4 incidents which i would consider dodgy - compared to daily annoyances here in korea.
The brits, yes, have a few hooligans - but on the whole are a vastly more advanced race of people than the koreans. |
What about "happyslapping"? |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: Nice things Koreans do/back home things aren't that great... |
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Korean people also do some NICE things that people back home don't do...I'm sure there are lots...
Give you "service" items at the checkout of bakeries and other establishments.
Free side-dishes, no matter how much you eat.
Most people are very polite, and typically don't get PO'd about things common to overcrowding/urban life like we do. What's annoys us is usually dealt with pretty gracefully by Koreans.
No road rage, middle-finger in traffic (ahsa, LA rocks), leaning out your window to yell at someone.
No homeless people outside my window smoking crack and getting drunk (Portland, Oregon...uh...great place to be unemployed?). No stepping over the homeless person who vomited on your doorstep and then passed out in it.
Very few spare-changers, no getting hassled by tweekers, crackheads, and heroin junkie punker kids who make no bones about their dispair-inducing lifestyle. Ever been followed and yelled at until you cough up some spare change? Not fun. Yay Detroit.
No homeless people urinating on bus seats or subway seats, or sitting down next to you and then doing so.
Getting accosted by the random person with mental problems is fairly rare here, in Portland or Detroit it's a once-a-week thing at LEAST.
I'm sure there's more. USA is okay, but I wouldn't say it's unilaterally better than Korea...just different. |
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mal
Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:25 am Post subject: |
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i guess we can look inwardly and criticize many things about "back home" but we really are just picking out the exceptional cases - what annoys people here are daily, ongoing occurences.
I lived in LOS for a couple of years (smallish town) and honestly have nothing but good memories - the thais have a maturity that makes the richer more "developed" koreans seem childish by contrast |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Yes a foreigner can become a naturalized Korean. Several have done it. |
Are there "glass ceilings" based on ethnicity or "race"? |
Please elaborate. This is rather vague. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| mal wrote: |
jeez... how picky you are!
Ok the koreans / brits aren't a "race" but ask any korean about their "tribe" and you get the distinct feeling that if they aren't actually a "race" they damn well want to be one! |
Accurate, not picky. And is there any reason why you are making bigoted statements about Koreans? |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Make a fuss over age. A year's difference matters here.
Somehow I don't imagine it applying much to old people.
"Hey, you are only 67 and I am 68, you must pour my drink!" |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: |
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mal
Joined: 21 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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c'mon now i'm not bigoted, i'm just acting in self defence!!
Seriously koreans are fuc*ed[/quote] |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| mal wrote: |
| The brits, yes, have a few hooligans - but on the whole are a vastly more advanced race of people than the koreans. |
And eugenics seems alive and well.... 
BTW "brits" and 'koreans" aren't races. |
I've had this argument with students before. One student said that the English are very racist. I told him to be careful with dictionary definitions because most of us think of racism as black vs white vs yellow vs red vs green vs whatever. Technically, he was correct:
race
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
5. Biology.
a. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
b. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
Anyway, something they do that no one else does(usually): Walk on the left but drive on the right. No small wonder that there's so much confusion on the streets here. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Nice things Koreans do/back home things aren't that grea |
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| PaperTiger wrote: |
Korean people also do some NICE things that people back home don't do...I'm sure there are lots...
Give you "service" items at the checkout of bakeries and other establishments.
Free side-dishes, no matter how much you eat.
Most people are very polite, and typically don't get PO'd about things common to overcrowding/urban life like we do. What's annoys us is usually dealt with pretty gracefully by Koreans.
No road rage, middle-finger in traffic (ahsa, LA rocks), leaning out your window to yell at someone.
No homeless people outside my window smoking crack and getting drunk (Portland, Oregon...uh...great place to be unemployed?). No stepping over the homeless person who vomited on your doorstep and then passed out in it.
Very few spare-changers, no getting hassled by tweekers, crackheads, and heroin junkie punker kids who make no bones about their dispair-inducing lifestyle. Ever been followed and yelled at until you cough up some spare change? Not fun. Yay Detroit.
No homeless people urinating on bus seats or subway seats, or sitting down next to you and then doing so.
Getting accosted by the random person with mental problems is fairly rare here, in Portland or Detroit it's a once-a-week thing at LEAST.
I'm sure there's more. USA is okay, but I wouldn't say it's unilaterally better than Korea...just different. |
Apologist alert!  |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Nice things Koreans do/back home things aren't that grea |
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| Gollum wrote: |
| PaperTiger wrote: |
Korean people also do some NICE things that people back home don't do...I'm sure there are lots...
Give you "service" items at the checkout of bakeries and other establishments.
Free side-dishes, no matter how much you eat.
Most people are very polite, and typically don't get PO'd about things common to overcrowding/urban life like we do. What's annoys us is usually dealt with pretty gracefully by Koreans.
No road rage, middle-finger in traffic (ahsa, LA rocks), leaning out your window to yell at someone.
No homeless people outside my window smoking crack and getting drunk (Portland, Oregon...uh...great place to be unemployed?). No stepping over the homeless person who vomited on your doorstep and then passed out in it.
Very few spare-changers, no getting hassled by tweekers, crackheads, and heroin junkie punker kids who make no bones about their dispair-inducing lifestyle. Ever been followed and yelled at until you cough up some spare change? Not fun. Yay Detroit.
No homeless people urinating on bus seats or subway seats, or sitting down next to you and then doing so.
Getting accosted by the random person with mental problems is fairly rare here, in Portland or Detroit it's a once-a-week thing at LEAST.
I'm sure there's more. USA is okay, but I wouldn't say it's unilaterally better than Korea...just different. |
Apologist alert! |
Don't worry Derrek. He's definitely (spelled correctly) not an apologist!!! I know him well. |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject: Derek's glass is half-empty.... |
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Dude, if you only focus on the negative things about an experience you've committed a year or more of your life to...what are you doing to yourself???
If you want this to just become whiny/culture-shock/pessimist/soul-crushing dispair forum maybe you should just check back with English Spectrum and see if they've reverted back to their old ways.
I had no idea the term "apologist" wass a derogatory label...but then again, this guy probably thinks "optimist", "rational" (as opposed to overly emotional), and "open-minded" are all hallmarks of a naive, ignorant, and obtuse personality. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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??? You guys lost me???
I've got a good one: Eating cough drops as candy. That one I can't figure out. |
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