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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
Hate to be a grammar pain in the butt....

derrek wrote:
STAND UP!!!

This doesn't mean stand up...
It means come this way...


GET UP!!! (EEERROONNNAAAAHH!!!!)

COME HERE!!! (EEERREEWAAAAAAHH!!!!)

edit: SOOOOOORRAAAH??

Native Speaker of Korean wrote:

"suh-ra"makes sense but no one use the expression, it's more like a detective saying "freeze!!or stop there!!!"
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
GET UP!!! (EEERROONNNAAAAHH!!!!)

COME HERE!!! (EEERREEWAAAAAAHH!!!!)

edit: SOOOOOORRAAAH??


I am a bit silly...i thought it was EERREEWAAHHH!!!!

You wouldn't use ERROONNAAHHH in this situation either though...it is the wrong expression to use....I would use EEERRROOWWAAHHH!!!!

I wouldn't use SOOORRAAHHH!!!!, just pointing out the literal interpretation.....
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you would say i ro na. That means get up (or wake up.) He doesn't want the student to come towards him, he wants her to stand up.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought he wants the student to come to him???????

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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel your pain, I only wish I could have exploded on the kids today, beats letting it boil up like a big juicy tumor.

The kids in all my classes today would not be quiet, would not follow basic directions, and would not do just about anything that I asked them to.

This is wierd, last week they all did pretty well for the hagwon kids that they are. Even more strange they are often more quiet in my class than in the Korean Teachers classes. They often sound like a riot out of control.

I think its the up coming holiday thats turning them into defiant little hell beasts. I had to wrestle a cap gun out the hands of one kid, and confiscate a slingshot from another. The cap gun boy cried the rest of the class, and sling shot boy cried for about 5 minutes. Old slingshot boy was playing cards with me after he stopped, and did all of his work. I thought cap gun boy was gonna kick the crap out of slingshot boy for betraying the cause. Funny how Korean solidarity breaks down in the face of a game of cards... Laughing

I figure my execution is being scheduled for tommorrow, not that I am all that concerned. I talked to a korean teacher about it, and he shrugged and said what did you do about the crying. I told him I let him blubber, and he shrugged and said he would have done the same thing. Of course when mommy finds out then its all gonna go down hill, but oh well for just that one hour I had the last laugh.
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guangho



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday was the first time for me to reach a whole new level off pissedoffedness. (Is that not a word?) When I pretend to get angry in class, I can distance myself, but yesterday was the first time I was genuinely angry. I think I traumatized them for life. Confused
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the heat is playing a role in my students misbehaviour lately.

I read them the riot act Today: I am angry....I am angry because you are not listening! Teacher should not have to say 'listen' more than one time!! If you do not listen you to me there will be no English class.

It worked really well because we were supposed to do a role play and the students really enjoy them. But because I had to repeat myself several times and students still werent paying attention there was no time for a role play.

It was funny because during lunch my students kept coming up to the teachers table and apologising to me Laughing The VP had to ask one of the Korean teachers what was going on...he thought it was funny too and gave me a pat on the back.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something to be said for these public school jobs. Prolly why I am looking into one in the Seoul Region. I gets all excited over dee fact that my job does not depend on attendance, so if i have to suplex some grode of a kid then well to bad for him right?

Hogwons suck for those of us who can not stand disorder and poor behaviors in classrooms. More specifically hogwons who preach the bible of no pissy off the kids, we need their money!
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livinginkorea



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually when I lose my cool I explode!! Literally. This means business to the kids and they usually never cross me again. I place the kid outside and give out to them so that everybody can hear and see and it works like a charm. Always I place the trouble makers at opposite sides of the room in the beginning of every class. Eventually they get used to it and I don't need to ask them.

It seems to be the best method for me. Took me a while to get it but I'll never forget it!!! Smile
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No L



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lost it in a class yesterday. I think it was partly the heat.

Most of the class was goofing off when they were supposed to doing a worksheet (in pairs). I let the students who had finished go (about 10 of them) and then yelled at the rest for 5 minutes into the lunch hour. Later, I told their homeroom teacher and she made them do some sort of crunch on their desk for about 30 minutes after school. It's my worst class; we'll see what happens with them next week.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

livinginkorea wrote:
Usually when I lose my cool I explode!! Literally. This means business to the kids and they usually never cross me again. I place the kid outside and give out to them so that everybody can hear and see and it works like a charm.


That doesn't sound very good for your health...do you really get angry or just pretend? I have a pretty deep and loud voice and I can growl with the best of them, but I've only ever really lost my temper teaching once or twice, and I never felt good about it.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I thought he wants the student to come to him???????

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No, I wanted her to stand up (get up) out of her chair.

I believe someone tried to correct me with the wrong answer when I wasn't wrong in the first place.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:
I told him I let him blubber, and he shrugged and said he would have done the same thing. Of course when mommy finds out then its all gonna go down hill, but oh well for just that one hour I had the last laugh.


On a slightly off-topic tangential tangent (are there many other kinds?), does "Mommy" really care when their kids blubber at the after school institute of Higher, Further and Better Learning? When they go home do their parents turn a slightly grayish kind of pale, collapse in shock, and gently splutter "Your, your.. your.. FORIEGN teacher made you.. you.. cry? my poor Agi..."

Or do they say "You cried!?!?!?!? You MUST have been misbehaving! Did your teacher hit you? he did? he didn't? Well either way then I shall beat you THRICEfold to discourage you from being uppity again! You rapscallion you!"

Or is the school of thought amongst the parents with thoughts of students apparantely without thoughts the same as what you implied in the brief quote? Do the parents really think "Oh my dear gosh! Goodness gracious me with a cherry on top! That foul foreign beast, almost human-like, which passes for a teacher in THIS Hagwan make poor little Johny-Puock-Meiee CRY!!? Oh the trauma! I must dispatch a complaint forthwith to the director of this esteemed establisment of English education!"

Do you get complaints when you make your kids cry? I didn't get one yet. Maybe I didn't make enough cry yet. Still.. there's always tomorrow..

-HE
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an official �յ� beating club to wave threatening about if my students play around (and use if the occasion demands it)! If they are a continual nuisance they spend the majority of the semester outside the class. I also have the option of failing them miserably.

I was able to determine the weighting for the class assessment this year. 10% for notebook, 40% for participation and 50% for an oral test. Having a quick squizz at my grading reports I can see a scattering of grades in the 20's and 30's. Students who constantly misbehave eventually get their just desserts!
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well having never made a kid cry for the entire class I have no idea the reaction the parents will take. So basically I await tommorrow to see what happens. All in all I am not sure I even give a hoot.
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