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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:
Wangja wrote:
Quote:
Do you eat cow???
Do you eat sheep????
Do you eat pig???
Do you eat chicken???

Well if you do then what is the difference..


They are all herbivores. A dog is a carnivore.


Pigs are omnivores.


And, like dogs, they like eating dookies sometimes, too.

Sparkles*_*
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
pegpig wrote:
Corporal wrote:
ladyandthetramp wrote:
And what is your reason for telling us?


I was thinking the same thing.


It seems that quite often when a new thread gets started, or an old one gets revived the same critics come on here wondering why someone did that. WHO CARES?! If you don't like it, go elsewhere.


Naw. If people want to post inane *beep*, other people can post about how they think it's inane *beep*.


If people put up with inane *beep*, they can post about how they think it's inane *beep*.
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
What is the thing against eating dog???

Do you eat cow???
Do you eat sheep????
Do you eat pig???
Do you eat chicken???

Well if you do then what is the difference..

Don't give me that animal rights bullcrap....all of the above are treated worse than a lot of the dogs are...have you ever been to a place they keep chickens...what do you think KFC is, hormoned chicken.

You missed out

No offence but a lot of people try to show of by saying they don't eat dog...i just don't get it......


JB, if the OP really was showing off, you would be right. However, you seem to be taking offense to the fact that the OP did not eat dog at all. Laughing Laughing

What's with "You missed out"?
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
When I first came to Korea, I honestly ate dog soup one time. It was the novelty of a new country and I wanted to do something different and have something "cool" to write about back home. Now, I honestly wish I didn't try it.


Great post, PCTG! Well done! Very Happy

(Well, if back-patting is good enough for Homer, then it's good enough for me).

Seriously, you have highlighted one particular problem concerning why some expats choose to eat dog. While some may do it purely for curiousity, and others may develop a genuine taste for it, there are always those who simply want to brag about it. I am glad that you have moved on from those times.


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Most Koreans I talk to seem shocked a little horrified that I tried dog....so obviously it is not a common cuisine with them also.


This is a very telling point indeed. If an American tourist told me "I'm gunna have BBQed kangaroo tail for dinner just so I could know what it's like to be an Aussie," I'd feel embarassed and a little insulted. It's an absurd analogy, I know; but those who are trying too hard to defend bosintang on cultural grounds may actually be guilty of stereotyping.
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pegpig



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
Most Koreans I talk to seem shocked a little horrified that I tried dog....so obviously it is not a common cuisine with them also.


They are probably not shocked about the eating so much as that it was a foreigner doing the eating - and a woman at that.

After the eating dogs came up in my early classses, I asked the students who had eaten dog. Almost without fail, the women all had those 'are you kidding me' looks. The men, sure. You're not a real Korean man if you haven't. And then of course this naturally leads to talk of eating frogs and what not and.....military life.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegpig wrote:
PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
Most Koreans I talk to seem shocked a little horrified that I tried dog....so obviously it is not a common cuisine with them also.


They are probably not shocked about the eating so much as that it was a foreigner doing the eating - and a woman at that.

After the eating dogs came up in my early classses, I asked the students who had eaten dog. Almost without fail, the women all had those 'are you kidding me' looks. The men, sure. You're not a real Korean man if you haven't. And then of course this naturally leads to talk of eating frogs and what not and.....military life.

Very good points. There are three boshintang restaurants near me, one with valet parking. Over the years I've watched carload of well-dressed Korean men after carload of well-dressed Korean men come and go. This isn't Korea's answer to Bennigan's. This isn't a place you take your date. This isn't where grandma goes for her monthly rheumatism remedy. It's expensive stamina food for Korean men. Male sexual performance enhancement -- that's what's being sold here in the minds of most customers. So naturally a foreign woman is going to get shocked gasps, dirty chuckles and leering stares from Koreans when she tells them she ate boshintang.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From http://members.tripod.com/~animom/koreandogs.html

They neglect to mention that the animals are slowly beaten to death...In Korean folklore, it is believed that the presence of adrenaline in dog meat is a sexual aphrodisiac. Toward that end, Korean Dog Meat restaurants use hammers and body hanging to break bones that slowly tortures dogs to death.

An interesting site to check out:

http://www.seoulsearching.com/DogMeat.html

Lots of really good postings on this thread. I just want to talk about some and add a few points of my own as I've had a few memorable experiences with dog-meat issues in this country.

I think dog meat is a Korean delicacy. One that I've never tried. I've never tried it because I have had two dogs as pets in my lifetime. Having said that, I think that Koreans can eat it if they want.

A friend of mine from Wisconsin raised sheep for slaughter. He actually said that he grew close to them and hated having to slaughter and sell them. Don't ask me how close he got because I never asked him! Other animals, besides dogs and cats, can be domesticated.

One person mentioned about doing away with all meat and how meat consumption causes all kinds of problems. I don't completely disagree, but I heard that scientists linked longevity of people on a remote Japanese island to their consumption of protein on a daily basis. However, I think that most of the protein they consumed was from fish meat along with a little pork. Yes, I know you can get protein from tofu, but I just do not like the stuff. I enjoy a nice juicy salmon or sirloin steak on occasion.

Beating ---> Adrenalin ---> Stamina. Maybe true. Then how can the dogs be slaughtered and still have the blood/body rich in adrenalin? Adrenalin flows when some organisms are scared, angry, excited, or hurt, right? Anyone ever thought that it might just be a placebo effect? Maybe many people believe that it gives them "stamina", so it does.

Foreigners who eat dog. I had a co-worker who bought loads of it at the market to fry up at home. I didn't go to his place very often.

Meat is meat. I had a student in Dae-goo who worked at Chihl-suhng Market who thought that I might be offended by Koreans who eat dog meat. He said, "I could cut up chicken, pork, beef, or dog and place it in front of you and you wouldn't know the difference." I replied, "Yes, and I could also cut you up and place you on a tray in front of me and I still couldn't tell the difference." That shocked the sh*t out of him because this was the time when there were reports in the news of starving North Koreans consuming their own dead relatives.

Speaking of relatives. My mother-in-law eats the stuff. I think she looks forward to the four "dog days" of summer.

My wife and I walked past a market one day. There was an OVERWHELMING stench of wet dog coming from the area. I mean REALLY overwhelming. I was gagging and my wife actually tossed her cookies at the side of the road.

I used to live in an apartment in Dae-juhn that was situated 50 meters from a dog slaughterhouse. During the busy summer months, all members in the complex were subjected to hours of evening wailing from the dogs who were being beaten and left to die and have that wonderful "stamina" course through their veins.

Some Korean doctors say that dog meat is very tender and digestible and is therefore often good to heal injuries, especially muscle-related ones.

Being tricked. Many of my students, females included, have told me stories of parents, both mother and father, who have lied to them about what that meat really was on the table or in the soup. Meat is meat I guess. Protein does the body good.

OP. If you don't want to go, don't go. Maybe they told you that they were going for dog meat because they didn't really want you to go? I always tell people, including bosses, that I don't do dog meat or raw fish or squishy rice cakes. If they don't like it, they can lump it. I don't condemn them if they don't like pizza and hamburgers. You can also ask your co-workers if the place they're going to has chicken soup. That is, if you can stomach it while the others are chomping on Fido's spleen. Very Happy


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stalinsdad



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with all those who find torture, butchering of dogs repulsive.
However it does seem a little hypocritical of us white westerners to take the moral high ground when in Norway they are still harpooning whales, Canadians continue to slaughter defenceless seal pups, sometimes skinning them alive!! The French force feeding geese.
In Japan they kill whales and dolphins for meat(burgers) and China-well the Korean joke....What is the only thing with four legs not eaten in China?
A chair!!!! Laughing
Let us clean up our own houses before trying to clean up others.

ps Denver great site.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more point. Some of the claims on the Seoul Searching website are generalizations and somewhat sensationalized. I understand why the guy is doing what he is doing, but on the A word about animal abuse in South Korea November, 2004 video, there are some strange points made. One was that dog meat is in existence because of the illegal sex trade. Bit of a jump. Also therefore, there's an increase in a variety of STDs. I think we might be able to blame this more on unprotected sex. The final claim was that during Choo-suhk, almost all Koreans eat dog. My wife said that that was a big lie and I have to agree with her as I have eaten at many different households during several different Choo-suhks and there was never any dog meat at any of them and I'm pretty sure that it wasn't only because I was a guest. Otherwise, it's a good read/view...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good response sheba.

I miss judged your post. Apologies.
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