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OK but if you DID want to try to get a job first...

 
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rycal1



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: OK but if you DID want to try to get a job first... Reply with quote

Everyone says that you need to be in Korea and put in some face time to land a good job. I must admit, I'm wary of doing so due to the unknown amounts of money I'd have to spend and the fact that I know almost f---all about what I'd do once I stepped off the plane. (Sure, I can/will find out more, but that's where I'm at now.)

I would love (yes, I said 'love') to have something lined up from here in the States, though it sounds like a lot of the recruiters can be shady and or unresponsive to one's, um, "needs". But surely there MUST be a good way to go about doing this...

My "needs": well, I have a Master's in English, and several years teaching experience (mostly high school English). I'm 35. Single. I'd like a uni job if possible as they seem to be the best available in many respects. And being able to save some money for travel would be great.

Any sites, services, or particular schools/unis people would recommend contacting from here in the US, or is it hopeless? You can tell me-- I can take it! Thanks.

rycal1
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for the uni job. There are more and more being posted these days. Most of them don't pay for airfare, so you'll most likely be out of pocket for that. As well, a lot of the places provide small dormitories for housing. Mention that you'd like to speak with one of the current teachers and you can ask questions about housing, fair treatment, etc.

There are many sites you can check. Here are just a few:

www.daveseslcafe.com
www.pusanweb.com
www.eslteachersboard.com
www.tefl.com
www.workandplay.co.kr

Time's running out for you for this coming semeter, but I recommend giving it a go. Deal directly with the schools. Not many recruiters place teachers at unis anyway. If you don't make it this time around, wait for next March to land a good uni job.


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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to add something...this has been covered many times in the past and is easily verified.
All businesses who want to sponsor a foreigner to work in korea, must sign a sponsor form from the Immigration Office.
This sponsor form states...not verbatim...but I'll explain...

The sponsor is responsible for all fines, etc. should the employee break the law.
The sponsor is responsible for all housing costs while in korea.
The sponsor is responsible for airfare to the home country at the end of the contract.

If the employer does not sing this sponsor form...immigration will not issue the visa.
Go to immigration and ask to see the sponsor form for yourself. In fact, a copy of the form was posted on this site sometime back.
So...why some unis don't pay for airfare...is because the teachers don't push the issue.
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rycal1



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject: Responsibilities Reply with quote

I have to be in the States 'til late August to get my teaching credential cleared. I hope that doesn't totally screw my chances. (Maybe I should start a new thread for this topic...) Is the beginning of September simply too late (as far as actually BEING in Korea)?

rycal1
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brachy



Joined: 01 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received my first job, while in North America. All done online. I never even talked to the employers on the phone. And didn't go through a recruiter. I just talked to another North American who worked at the school. They sent me a ticket etc... and within 3 weeks was on a plane.

The job wasn't ideal, but it was ok. Got paid on time, and all of the benefits I was promised. I put my year in, and then from Korea moved on to bigger and better.

Good luck.... however I have heard it is more difficult to get Uni jobs without an in person interview.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look good (white, half-way attractive) you'll land a University gig, I'd bet. But you'll want to come here first.

Go for it... take the plunge. We can walk you through it. I used www.gardenstatetravel.com back home, and they got me a good price (USA).
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always do a year-gig with an org like EPIK and work on landing a uni gig at the end of the contract.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Responsibilities Reply with quote

rycal1 wrote:
I have to be in the States 'til late August to get my teaching credential cleared. I hope that doesn't totally screw my chances. (Maybe I should start a new thread for this topic...) Is the beginning of September simply too late (as far as actually BEING in Korea)?

rycal1


It may not totally screw you, but it won't help, especially for a university. Some of them actually begin their fall(second) semester in the last week of August. I worked at two unis here. The first began at the end of August on some screwy day like a Tuesday or Wednesday. I got my visa in Canada for that gig and almost everything was done on-line. No problems. The second, began the first week of March on another screwy day like a Thursday. That one had problems. I ended up arriving two days later than expected because of snow. JAL wouldn't change flight numbers or times, so I was stranded in Toronto for two days until the same flight number opened up at the same time. At least Air Canada paid for the hotel and three meals each day. Anyway, other teachers covered my classes for me. I also had that visa processed in Canada. If I had've arrived late like that, plus had to do a visa-run to Japan, I think the place and people would've been less understanding. Neither place offered airfare, but both we pretty good. The second place had a better schedule and vacation, but the first had better accommodations.

Your master's and experience are good to have, but even those are no guarantee for a good uni job here nowadays. Sometimes it's "who you know" as well as Derrek said, "how you look" and sometimes the in-person interview is required. Some university students are pretty good but most of them will be FAR below your high school English class students' abilities in America in many ways. If you want a job for September, start enquiring today. Start sending attachments and other required documents. Book a flight. See what happens. If nothing happens, wait until the postings start popping up again in December for the March positions. Again, there's no guarantee that that "perfect" position will come around at that time. If you really want to leave and get teaching here, try another option like Yu_Bum_suk said. Here's a link for universities and other similar institutions you might like to look into:

http://www.duke.edu/~myhan/c_blku.html

I don't know how current the list is, but it might help you put out some queries to other places. Usually, the unis don't plan too much in advance either and post for new teachers as needed but it might not hurt to send some letters to English departments in advance. Don't know what else I can say...
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