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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Depends on your definition of "successful". Has he achieved anything? Carter is a talker who's only talent is showing up at the right times to make himself look good. He's not a leader of humans. |
Ummmm....Habitat for Humanity comes to mind; his work with Ford on various commissions; the requests from dozens of foreign countries for him to come in and observe elections to ensure fairness;
Maybe you don't respect him but the general consensus of millions is that he is a man of integrity and worthy of respect.
But you are entitled to your opinion. |
Re-read what you just wrote. Key words are "commissions" and "observe". You've demonstrated that he's got his name associated with a good brand, Habitat for Humanity. What has he *done*, though? Let's talk dollars. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| built a bunch of houses. He just doesn't do that crap for photo ops. Why such a cynic?? Carter might have been somewhat inept as a President, but he is a good man. Nothing in his life says otherwise. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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He devotes a week of every year to building houses:
HFH Bio
That week of work has been documented on a PBS Show:
Your House
This year he and his wife worked in Detroit:
Habitat in Detroit
Yeah, he won the Nobel Peace Prize for just showing up at photo-ops.  |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| i'm glad polk made the list of near greats. his name doesn't seem to be as well-known as i think it should be. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| his name doesn't seem to be as well-known as i think it should be. |
It is odd, isn't it? I always thought it was because the people who opposed Polk's war, like Thoreau and Lincoln, ended up more famous than him. They kind of stole his thundar, is my guess. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| his name doesn't seem to be as well-known as i think it should be. |
It is odd, isn't it? I always thought it was because the people who opposed Polk's war, like Thoreau and Lincoln, ended up more famous than him. They kind of stole his thundar, is my guess. |
yeah, that's true, but i think andy jackson pre-emptively stole a bit of his thundar as well. i think a lot of people (possibly even himself) saw him as a second andrew jackson (young hickory), but without the wild hair or the flair. i read his diary. pretty dry stuff. he was like my father in a supermarket... make a list. get it done. get out. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| his name doesn't seem to be as well-known as i think it should be. |
It is odd, isn't it? I always thought it was because the people who opposed Polk's war, like Thoreau and Lincoln, ended up more famous than him. They kind of stole his thundar, is my guess. |
yeah, that's true, but i think andy jackson pre-emptively stole a bit of his thundar as well. i think a lot of people (possibly even himself) saw him as a second andrew jackson (young hickory), but without the wild hair or the flair. i read his diary. pretty dry stuff. he was like my father in a supermarket... make a list. get it done. get out. |
Have to admit, the only thing I know about Polk is the Mexican-American war. And I'm undecided as to whether that was a good thing. Also, in the old Apple II game "Oregon Trail" he's the president who writes you a letter if your wagon train successfully arrives in Oregon. |
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