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Boss holding your degree? It's now a moot point.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Boss holding your degree? It's now a moot point. Reply with quote

If your boss holds onto your degree as collateral, then laugh in his/her face, because it doesn't matter any more. You'll need a new sealed one for your next job anyway....

I asked this exact question to the immigration people at Omogkyo. When the people downstairs couldn't give me a straight answer, I was sent to floor 2, where I asked the same thing:


"Do I need to get a new degree and set of transcripts if get a new E-2 to work for a different school?"


First of all, let me tell you it was VERY difficult to get anyone who spoke enough English to understand what I was asking, or give me a direct answer. I waited at 3 windows on both floors 1 and 2. It took me about 30 minutes to get an answer, and there were almost no people waiting in the upstairs office in the office at the time!

I know many of you know this, but just so you guys no EXACTLY as stated from the immigration office -- you must provide a degree and sealed transcripts in an unopened envelope sent directly from your university EVERY time you apply for a new E-2. It doesn't matter how long you've been here.

I have a legal N. Public -- imprinted with a press -- stating that my degree is legal. I showed them that, and they didn't care.

They want new sealed transcripts/degree.
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I don't think thats sufficient.

I think the only way to ensure we have legitimate degrees is to fly the head of your school from the University of graduation out here and a lengthy interegation, perhaps a lie detector test too. In fact two separate contacts from the Uni cross interegated might prove more worthwhile.


I think this proposal would be swiftly embraced by immigration, any ideas on who to contact?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit confused.

Sealed transcripts I understand are record of your grades and says that you graduated with a BA in basket weaving and those are sent in an envelope by the varsity.

Sealed degree??? WTF? They want me to buy a new copy of my diploma for a new job.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans are stupid and don't even understand the rules in their own country. They are stupid people.

When I got my visa from the Korean Consulate in the Latin American country where I was, the Korean consulate officer I spoke with told me:

(a) It was against international law for him to stamp an American's passport with a Korean work visa outside of the United States; and

(b) that I had to return to the State where I was born, and, with a valid birth certificate in hand, request the visa from the nearest Korean Consulate.

I called my shady recruiter and she faxed him a letter and, the next day, he stamped my passport for $50.

Now you're talking some nonsense about a sealed degree. Never even heard of a sealed degree before, not anywhere in Latin America, not in the job in Saudi I turned down after processing, not anywhere. That's probably just what the dude said today. Go back tomorrow and you'll need a notarized letter or recommendation from your class president, too.


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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm calling BS on this. I will have to see it to believe it.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most universities (at least in the UK) will only replace lost or damaged degree certificates. They won't send out extras in sealed envelopes, not even to the queen herself. I don't believe it! It's BS.
You shouldn't believe half of what immigration tell you anyway, they constantly change their minds according to which way the wind blows. The guy probably told you that just to get rid of you. Laughing
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guangho



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sealed degree and transcripts.....or fifty bucks and a bottle of jinro soju.

Hypothetically speaking.
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Dawn



Joined: 06 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we processed paperwork for a new teacher last week, we were told that all future E-2 applications would have to be accompanied by sealed official transcripts. No mention was made of needing anything other than the normal degree (or a certified copy thereof). Granted, this information was supplied by the Uijongbu immigration office. Rules of offices ten kilometers to the north, south, east or west may vary.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plato's republic wrote:
Most universities (at least in the UK) will only replace lost or damaged degree certificates. They won't send out extras in sealed envelopes, not even to the queen herself. I don't believe it! It's BS.
You shouldn't believe half of what immigration tell you anyway, they constantly change their minds according to which way the wind blows. The guy probably told you that just to get rid of you. Laughing


EXACTLY. Transcript copies, ok: but a new degree certificate???? Impossible.
My Uni would only send a new replavement certificate if I could verify losing the original, with the signed support of a lawyer. Or, intentionally damage the old one and get a replacement.

No way.
If they want new original degree certificates, I'll be teaching in a different country. Thats just silly.
Next they'll be wanting a home video of your graduation ceremony.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When we processed paperwork for a new teacher last week, we were told that all future E-2 applications would have to be accompanied by sealed official transcripts. No mention was made of needing anything other than the normal degree (or a ce