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StephPoet



Joined: 14 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have two more Korean interviews tonight. Wish me luck!
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephPoet wrote:
Was that sarcasm I detected, or a critique of my intelligence?

I am aware this is the Korea forum. I was reporting I could go to China, but want to go to Korea and am discouraged.


No, you detected a lack of comprehension skills in a poster's rash response to a reasonable request for information. A couple of people put him down for it already though, its okay.

Anyway, I'm job hunting too right now, only for public school (or "better") jobs. I must say I got a lot of offers in a pretty short time.. admittedly most were totally the opposite of what I was looking for.. recruiter's mind:"Public school" = a school where some public school children go = a hagwan..

I got 24 emails within about 18 hours of posting my resume up on a bunch of sites though. About 4 were spam, 3 were reasonably relevant job prospects and 17 were job offers totally at odds with what I'd mentioned in my posting/resume/cover letter/whatever.

I think it is a teacher's market to a certain extent right now, but most salaries don't seem to be rising to reflect this. Maybe after about 4 or 5 months of directors promising they'll have a new foreigner soon to the parents of their students, and still failing to hire one, salaries might start to rise though. If salaries DO start to rise, we'll know immigration's june/july crackdown worked.

-HE

EDIT: I changed "in" to "within". I didn't spend 18 hours posting my resume. I'm not that quick.
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StephPoet



Joined: 14 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got two offers tonight:

One in Jeonju.
Another near Seoul. (hagwon)

I'm leaning toward Jeonju. Seems nicer and they don't want me to rush on a plane to get there like the hagwon does.

Now I can breathe...
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hari seldon



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephPoet wrote:
I have two more Korean interviews tonight. Wish me luck!

If you find that nervousness is sabotaging your phone interviews then do a better job of preparing for your interviews. Besides preparing answers to questions you anticipate being asked, try getting youself into a relaxed and confident mental state with some meditation and positive mental imaging.
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drgoo



Joined: 10 Feb 2005
Location: Home, sweet home

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or medication and ECT.
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bignate



Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hari seldon wrote:
StephPoet wrote:
I have two more Korean interviews tonight. Wish me luck!

If you find that nervousness is sabotaging your phone interviews then do a better job of preparing for your interviews. Besides preparing answers to questions you anticipate being asked, try getting youself into a relaxed and confident mental state with some meditation and positive mental imaging.


There is an iterview process, the only questions I was asked where, "Are you white?", and "Do you have a passport?" Laughing
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's odd how things work out.

One of my 'interviews' (phone) with some Korean folks was a complete shambles. I hung up.

I got another offer via a recruitment agency after an 'interview' with the director of the school. She said "I want to hire you" pretty much immediately after saying hello! It was with a reputable chain, so I accepted. In the end, that fell through because of a few reasons - all of which beyond my control.

I assumed I got this job and it was all done and dusted. But, just for the hell of it, I had an interview with Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education (SMOE), a kind of insurance policy to give myself more options. I made no effort whatsoever with this interview and was more than a little complacent - because I'd already got this other job, right? (er, no, as things turned out)
I didn't think the interview went remotely well (I actually felt I was rude to the interviewer) and I got the job, which I begin next month. I half-wrote an email to my recruiter, telling him how rubbish the interview was and how I don't want the job, but for some reason I didn't send it (thank God, in hindsight). The other job, as I say, fell through. A totally barmy set of circumstances. I despaired a bit like StephPoet but it's almost as if fate pointed me in the direction of Seoul and SMOE.
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you kidding? (OP) I got two or three offers within 24 hours. And I don't have any ESL certification or degree, only one year experience with a different age group in Taiwan several years ago. Have you put your resume on Dave's job center yet? I got three or four recruiters calling me. Each one had at least two jobs to offer, and they seemed to indicate that I just needed a phone interview (as a formality) before being accepted.

Maybe you haven't got your name out there.

Or, maybe you really turned them off in the phone interview somehow. Speak slowly and clearly, don't use slang. Don't, like, use, like, "like", or "ya know?", like ten times in like a sentence, ya know?

Or, maybe they didn't like the photo you e-mailed. Do you have dark skin? Try taking a photo under bright sunlight, wearing a black shirt, and Photoshop it to make yourself look paler.
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freebeerandchicken



Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: i hear ya sister Reply with quote

I have been searching over the net for a good month or two now, still unsuccessfully. All along my plan has been to begin teaching in August, so I guess more jobs are popping up now compared to two months ago.. But still, I've only had a few bites and nothing really solid. Definitely haven't had a real job offer yet. Boo-urns I say! I am going through recruiters.. Despite what so many people on here say, I am finding that about 90% of Korean ESL jobs to be had over the internet are through recruiters. (prove me wrong damnit!) Wink
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StephPoet



Joined: 14 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm half-Hispanic. I guess that was a big deal.

joe_doufu wrote:


Or, maybe they didn't like the photo you e-mailed. Do you have dark skin? Try taking a photo under bright sunlight, wearing a black shirt, and Photoshop it to make yourself look paler.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephPoet wrote:
I'm half-Hispanic. I guess that was a big deal.

joe_doufu wrote:


Or, maybe they didn't like the photo you e-mailed. Do you have dark skin? Try taking a photo under bright sunlight, wearing a black shirt, and Photoshop it to make yourself look paler.


It's a big deal to some of them, but they're not all like that. It might mean you have try twice as hard, but if you do land a job, at least your employer will probably be the more tolerant type.
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freebeerandchicken



Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: i hear ya sister Reply with quote

freebeerandchicken wrote:
I have been searching over the net for a good month or two now, still unsuccessfully. All along my plan has been to begin teaching in August, so I guess more jobs are popping up now compared to two months ago.. But still, I've only had a few bites and nothing really solid. Definitely haven't had a real job offer yet. Boo-urns I say! I am going through recruiters.. Despite what so many people on here say, I am finding that about 90% of Korean ESL jobs to be had over the internet are through recruiters. (prove me wrong damnit!) Wink


I should clarify that there are a few things that narrow down my options a bit.. I want to be within the Seoul Metropolitan Area, and also I am being fairly insistent upon having single accomodation. I'm hoping that things are going to pick up now that the date is getting closer (mid to late August).
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