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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: paedophillic???? |
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So I started working at a kindergarten and after lunch I usually grab one of the easy reading books in Korean to pass the time. That is how I came across this little gem. It is a story in a book published by SamSung for reading by first grade Korean children. The main character in the story is a little 8 year old girl called Narae. The first part of the story talks about how she wants a p e n i s so she can do the business standing up like her daddy. She draw some pictures and argues with her mom so fortunately dad finally comes home and they have the family bath together where all her curiosities are answered. Let��s take the story from here, with the whole family in the bath, as Narae is about to ask her father something.
������ �ƺ� �Ϳ� ��� ���� ���� �Ҹ��� ������.
Narae put her hands around her father��s ears and whispered.
���ƺ�, �ƺ� ���� ���� ���� ��?��
��Daddy, can I touch daddy��s p e n i s?�� 
������ ���� �� �ϰ� �ݹ� ��ȸ�߾�. �ƺ��� ȥ���� �����. ������ �ϼ��� �������� ��ó�� �� �� ������ ���� �����̾���.
Narae regretted what she said. What if Daddy got angry? Maybe he would get rid of her like the dirty water down the drain.
��Ǫ���������������ϡ�
��Hahahahahaha�� (Daddy��s laughing)
�ƺ��� ū �Ҹ��� ���� ������. ����, ���� ���߳���.
Dad laughed loudly. Gee wiz what words!!
�ƺ��� ���� �Ϳ� ��� ���� ���� �Ҹ��� ���߾�.
Daddy put his hands around Narae��s wears and whispered
���ѹ� ���� ���� 촣�ơ�
��It��s good if you touch it one time��
��ũũũũ��
(strange Korean child laughter)
������ �� �̻��ϰ� ����.
Narae laughed strangely
������� �?��
��How the feeling?��
������ ���� ���� ��ó�� �ε巯��.��
��It��s soft like when I touch Mommy��s breast.�� THANK GOD
It��s not that there is anything particularly wrong with this but I find it a strange story to find in a book for 8 year olds and I wonder how parents back in the PC correct doldrums of the West would react if this was given to school age children?
Rest assured the book did say at the end of the story.
�ʵ� ���� ������ ����ó�� �ƺ��� ������ �Բ� ����� ��.
Try to have a bath with mommy and daddy tonight like Narae did.
I just hope mummy��s home���� 
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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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the story is weird but if you're gonna translate it, do a better job
������ ���� �� �ϰ� �ݹ� ��ȸ�߾�. �ƺ��� ȥ���� �����. ������ �ϼ��� �������� ��ó�� �� �� ������ ���� �����̾���.
Narae regretted what she said. What if Daddy got angry? Maybe he would get rid of her like the dirty water down the drain.
Narae wanted to go into the drain like water (basically she wanted to crawl into a hole because she was scared her dad might be mad at her for asking) |
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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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�ƺ��� ū �Ҹ��� ���� ������. ����, ���� ���߳���.
Dad laughed loudly. Gee wiz what words!!
a-yoo, maybe i shouldnt have said it
���ѹ� ���� ���� ?�ơ�
��It��s good if you touch it one time��
ok, you can touch it once |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yes you're right . I quickly typed it and didn't focus on that part. That's not the controversial part
I will be more careful next time so as not to allow condescending aholes room to discourage someone learning Korean through fear of making a mistake. Perhaps people like you are the reason Koreans are afraid to speak English because they are not perfect at it.
Next time when someone asks 'If your gunna type Korean you should put English there too' we can all wait for you to provide the translation. |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: re: |
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No, it's not ok. Pictures can be drawn and explanations made without real-life experience, especially for an 8 year-old. Am I the only one confused by sexual repression co-existing with the beyond-western obsession with sexuality (notice I did not say sex) in Korea?
Peace,
Daniel |
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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Sliver wrote: |
Yes you're right . I quickly typed it and didn't focus on that part. That's not the controversial part
I will be more careful next time so as not to allow condescending aholes room to discourage someone learning Korean through fear of making a mistake. Perhaps people like you are the reason Koreans are afraid to speak English because they are not perfect at it.
Next time when someone asks 'If your gunna type Korean you should put English there too' we can all wait for you to provide the translation. |
touchy touchy! |
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
No, it's not ok. Pictures can be drawn and explanations made without real-life experience, especially for an 8 year-old. Am I the only one confused by sexual repression co-existing with the beyond-western obsession with sexuality (notice I did not say sex) in Korea?
Peace,
Daniel |
YES!!! Look at all of the massage parlors, singing clubs, room salons, business clubs, etc. etc in one neighborhood. In my 'hood, within all of that stuff, there's a slew of motels. My friends explained to me that because a large percentage of Korean marriages are pre-arranged, outside affairs are ok as long as there's no love. Even Koreans I meet tell me they have several boyfriends and their husband has several girlfriends. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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| Even Koreans I meet tell me they have several boyfriends and their husband has several girlfriends. |
Are you talking about married people? I wonder what the rate of STD transmission is 'round these parts...
Hey, Flagwaver! What's your input?  |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Sliver wrote: |
Yes you're right . I quickly typed it and didn't focus on that part. That's not the controversial part
I will be more careful next time so as not to allow condescending aholes room to discourage someone learning Korean through fear of making a mistake. Perhaps people like you are the reason Koreans are afraid to speak English because they are not perfect at it.
Next time when someone asks 'If your gunna type Korean you should put English there too' we can all wait for you to provide the translation. |
Anyone who is afraid to make a mistake while learning a language isn't going to learn the language.
She corrected you, bfd. She was right wasn't she? |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Peony wrote
You betcha 
Just like need some encouragement sometimes if ya know what I mean and I didn't wan't my thread hijacked after one post. Anyway peace. I always have been a little reactionary...  |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| i don't think it's suitable at all. i'm all for children knowing about sex, but not getting naked with their fathers. |
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astroboyfan
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| Sliver wrote: |
Yes you're right . I quickly typed it and didn't focus on that part. That's not the controversial part
I will be more careful next time so as not to allow condescending aholes room to discourage someone learning Korean through fear of making a mistake. Perhaps people like you are the reason Koreans are afraid to speak English because they are not perfect at it.
Next time when someone asks 'If your gunna type Korean you should put English there too' we can all wait for you to provide the translation. |
Anyone who is afraid to make a mistake while learning a language isn't going to learn the language.
She corrected you, bfd. She was right wasn't she? |
She did correct minor errors, but his point was the content not the exact word for word translation. |
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Shutterfly
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| No i don't think it is appropriate at all. If some one wants to write a book pertaining to kids sexual curiosity, that's fine. But i think that book was way over the line. i would discreetly remove the book from you school library, kids do not need to be reading that, especially in a school environment! |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote
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| Anyone who is afraid to make a mistake while learning a language isn't going to learn the language. |
This is true, also
bucheon bum wrote
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| She corrected you, bfd. |
Yes she did (though I still don't know what bfd is and or if peony is male or female).
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if you're gonna translate it, do a better job
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Is not supportive or ammeniable way to allow a student, wanting to accept constructive crititsm, to feel comfortable and confident in continuing to practice. I accept my mistakes, done on the fly, and actually do like 'error correction' style training but this was not a good example of 'error correction' technique. Furthermore I accepted my touchiness and made my peace. Thankyou (read sarcasm) for again trying to hijack the thread.
astroboy wrote
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| but his point was the content not the exact word for word translation |
Exactly
Now to the actual point of my post for those who wish to comment.
Disclaimer: I am FUCKed at Korean. |
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haengdangdong
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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How about this picture from a children's book we use at my hagwon. Are all children's book illustrators perverted? Is ]this ok? Blatantly obvious and its not the only weiner in there. Plus, there's some pretty bad grammatical errors ("I've the magic now" instead of I have the magic now).
I think they won't let me post this pic anymore. THe photo's at:
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/68/5576/640/PICT02261.jpg
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