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Dating Korean men-part deux
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
these spoiled princesses


Yes! I prefer "girly" women, but Korean women are just too much for me. And way too thin, too. I don't see the attraction, man.

I was working on "can" and "can't" with my adults class and I discovered that the female student in that class can't do anything. Can't drive, can't type, can't cook, can't, can't can't. She can do nails, and that is her job. She is 27 years old and aspires to be a housewife, according to her own statement. And she likes money. When we did "like," I asked her what she liked. Went around the class (of five). At first she said "nothing," then I started asking her yes/no questions, and was getting all "nos." Then the Hyundai guy said, with no bitterness or sarcasm: "I know what she likes; she likes money." She said flatly, "yes, I like money." Some day someone's going to marry her, too...and one day they'll wake up to discover that this is a very hollow woman.

Anyway, if she's any indication of at least a section of Korean women, I shudder.


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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulunitarian wrote:
a bi-racial relationship


Daniel: we're all in the human race, dude. Some of us are in cross-cultural relationships. I think that's what you mean to say...
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Corporal



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
sistersarah wrote:
now things are great. his parents, especially his dad, really like me. at first i thought their refusal to meet me was because they were racists. it was a bad six months. when they finally agreed to meet me, it turns out they're just small town people who never met a foreigner and didn't know what to expect. not racist at all.


Do you people ever listen to yourselves?

Would you be so understanding if someone back in Canada (which has GOT to be where you're from) refused to meet a fellow human being for six months simply because s/he was of a different race or nationality and that person "didn't know what to expect"?

Why wouldn't you have more self-respect than that? How can one internalize such hatred for six months?


Dogbert--do YOU ever listen to yourself? Are you really suggesting that one person should not marry another person if there's a good chance that their inlaws-to-be are racist assholes?

I'm fairly sure no Westerner here has married a Korean that initially thought of them as stupid freaky scary foreigners.
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seoulunitarian



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
seoulunitarian wrote:
a bi-racial relationship


Daniel: we're all in the human race, dude. Some of us are in cross-cultural relationships. I think that's what you mean to say...


I meant cross-cultural and bi-racial. A race is a specific group of people tied together by certain genetic and cultural factors, at least according to Mirriam Webster. Anyway, I think everyone knows what I mean without resorting to semantics.

Peace,
Daniel
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a few of my friends here, whose parents flat out said "Don't bring home a Korean wife!"
I have to agree with Gopher though, What use are they?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
rapier wrote:
these spoiled princesses


Yes! I prefer "girly" women, but Korean women are just too much for me. And way too thin, too. I don't see the attraction, man.

I was working on "can" and "can't" with my adults class and I discovered that the female student in that class can't do anything.

Anyway, if she's any indication of at least a section of Korean women, I shudder.


Thats it exactly. I'm no mysogynist..I love women, and there are some good Korean women Of course.
But by and large, they have been a dissapointment, and I think I've reached the point of no return. The woman you mention is not just one, she's the norm...across the board these pouting decorations are more or less useless. Their society has so groomed them for the expectation to marry money and be looked after forever... that somewhere along the way they forgot that life is short, and its important to realise yourself fully. Where is their adventure, independence of thought and action? They have little real character, and behave along such conditioned and predictable lines. Not to say they aren't nice or whatever.. but you have to introduce them to so many things and ideas that westerners just take for granted. A sense of humor, for one.. and so on.
Korean women love meeting foreign guys, its refreshing to them. But they are still generally so stuck in their ways and cultural expectations.
I believe it was Douglas McArthur who said "The worst thing about koreans is that they're stubborn. The best thing about them, is that they're stubborn". I really think you'd get a lot more joy out of women of almost any other nationality. How best to put it.."Korea is a country where the "conditioned, cultural woman has so utterly superceded the real woman".

I really am looking forward to finally deserting Korea and finding some lively, spontaneous people in South America -where I'm planning a long backpacking mission. And unless my planned dream job here (not involving teaching) materialises, I'll be returning to teach in China, Indonesia or Taiwan. Somewhere with some life. Anywhere but here.
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fusionbarnone



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I was engaged,I was ususally accompanied by ladies(Korean and other-wise) who enjoyed my company and whom I held mutual regard for and vise-versa. It's been said; Like minds attract; and birds of a feather flock together. I also have no patience for self-introducing ingratiating males. Especially K-men as the ladies involved with me, 1/ 4/5, just happened to be attractive, I make no apologies for short shifting them from the scene.

Ladies who I choose to know, have a strong respect for themselves through remaining aware of their own cultural/professional backgrounds. And in that respect they maintained a strong sense of self about who they are and where they were going in life.

From what I've observed over the years with each new wave of female teachers, a whole not so new bunch of Korean chaps were always there to greet them. The anticipated "experiences" these eagerly awaiting local lads will eventually procure I am sure, be "appreciated highly" by their future Korean wives. If, they(K-lotharios) actually hone new skills to improve(beyond the Local porn how to flicks) in during the boudour perfomance. although nine times out of ten, this I doubt.

Riding the White Horse, has to be the most racist term ever coined. You ladies should feel seriously assaulted and affronted if this is how K-men see and percieve you. This would translate into affirmed racial superiority through actualizing the commodification and denigration of another culture, through their reproductive females(the most revered members of any culture as bearers and nurturers of future generations) as tissue-paper concubines. That's like gleefully demonstrating in the face/s of the world's most powerful and proven race/s saying; "I'm better than you" look what I'm doing with your daughters/sisters. Of course, being miles from home and the discerning eyes of family and friends, it's all too easy to experience a "bit of color", as they say.

Western women should exercise more self-respect and restraint and not selectively dismiss their powerful birthright. They are bearers of a superior race that has introduced technologies, systems, etc which have molded the world through superior application of intellect, ingenuity, foresight, and courage.

These "new" emerging miracle economies are merely piggy backing. Their cultures(I'm talking about Korea'Japan as examples) were graciously left almost intact apart from the truncating of the Emporer in Japan(general McArthurs initiative) so as the cultures could be able to adapt and develop with minimum westernization and minimalising of the culture. With native cultures and researchable histories of the impact and influence of western emergence on native cultures, Japan and Korea got damn lucky.

This was definately a break from old tried and proven world systems of development and under-development theories unprecedented in history. Of course now Korean cultural pride can make claims toward this political/historic/economic/cultural seachange as being due solely to unflappable cultural superiority. certainly worked well for Mr. Park.

Korea is but a brief interlude in this life but an awareness and respect for self, and, one's intelligence is needed for a lifetime.

How will you say you met that challenge?

Don't be sucked in.

And, I don't care if I get flamed by liberal apologists, PC police, or miffed and affronted females. I am and always have been highly appreciative and respectful of the female gender and they(females) have been known to reciprocate equally.

Concentrate on class acts, not puffed up nationalists with undersized weaners who are too cheap to spend 25,000won on a pink window K-gal.

They really are out there.
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coldcrush



Joined: 02 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.

I was watching M.A.S.H. yesterday, and Hawkeye said something like this "We're all a little crazy here. There's something about this country, that makes all of us nuts".

True that, Alan Alda. True that.

<cue M.A.S.H. music>
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fusionbarnone wrote:
Riding the White Horse, has to be the most racist term ever coined. You ladies should feel seriously assaulted and affronted if this is how K-men see and percieve you. This would translate into affirmed racial superiority through actualizing the commodification and denigration of another culture, through their reproductive females(the most revered members of any culture as bearers and nurturers of future generations) as tissue-paper concubines.


I'm glad that at least one other person has the intelligence to understand this. Thank you.

fusionbarnone wrote:
That's like gleefully demonstrating in the face/s of the world's most powerful and proven race/s saying; "I'm better than you" look what I'm doing with your daughters/sisters.


This is EXACTLY what it is.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is "riding the White Horse" an expression translated from Korean into English? Is this something Koreans say among themselves?
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Is "riding the White Horse" an expression translated from Korean into English? Is this something Koreans say among themselves?


ive had a korean woman tell me she wants to ride the white horse....
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would totally depersonalize sex for me. I'd simply feel like the most conveniently available White Horse, as if which ever one of us was on hand would do...

By the way, got her number?
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've ridden a white horse. Yup an actual white horse. Well actually it was a little offwhite. She was a great horse.
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