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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
There's no bigger loser than a martyr that can't even blow himself up. I just got back home and don't know any details yet but it would be nice if these people that thought they were getting a free ticket out end up failing miserably.
Dulouz, let's keep the politics out of this for at least a few hours. |
Yeah, no 2000 virgins for them! |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Israel used to follow a policy of burying all terrorists in pigskins. It was very effective at deterring suicide bombers etc, as this final act barred the muslim from access to his waiting 40 virgins.
Unfortunately liberals campaigned saying it was inhuman, the government relented, and the number of attacks rose.
As regards the fleeing terrorist, apparently nobody was brave enough to chase after and catch him. I suppose I can hardly blame them. The other one co-operated well at his arrest outside Whitehall- not much of a terrorist: the manual says to kill as many as you can before dying, and never be taken alive.
If 4 of every 10 british muslims agree with the attacks as polls suggest, its pretty obvious England is now a divided country.
Still, after their idiotic liberal policies and politics of the past 20 years, they have brought it on themselves. Just a shame that its too late for Zimbabwe, after they helped the terrorists win there. I now have no home country thanks to the stupid British politicians.
This is justt the beginning of "normality" for britain now. I mean continueing and ongoing attacks aimed at causing general mayhem in the capital.
Any bets on how long before Britain pulls its troops from Iraq? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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One of the reports said witnesses reported one of the bombers had a startled look on his face. I had to think about that.
Get all geared up to die and go to heaven...hear a little bang instead of a big boom, open your eyes and there are no virgins standing there welcoming you...just the same old subway. I'd be startled, too. And majorly disappointed.
This failed attempt could well dampen the enthusiasm for future attacks among those contemplating it. Let's at least hope so. |
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rok_the-boat

Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Although good for us, it must be pretty depressing for a suicide bomber when he fails ... I guess they'll have to wait awhile for their quota of virgins. Perhaps, if caught, castration would be a good prevention meansure?
And, now, what will the average bod, muslim or not, think when he sees a Pakistani getting on a London bus or subway with a large backpack? These dastardly deeds are going to do nothing for race relations. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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rapier wrote: |
Israel used to follow a policy of burying all terrorists in pigskins. It was very effective at deterring suicide bombers etc, as this final act barred the muslim from access to his waiting 40 virgins.
Unfortunately liberals campaigned saying it was inhuman, the government relented, and the number of attacks rose.
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That is an urban legand.
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Islamic reference books say the body of a martyr who dies for the faith is so pure that it does not need to be washed before burial, in contrast to the usual Muslim practice. |
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There are rumors it has happened in Israel, but contrary to what Rapier claims, it has not been effective.
Israel National News
Another source for you:
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One of the questions that crops up from time to time in the discussions is whether, if the potential bomber knows that he will be buried in pigskin, will this cause him to abandon his attack because he will not enter heaven as a shahid (martyr). "This is arrant nonsense," Sivan replies when asked this question. |
Ha'aretz article
It is a good short history of global suicide bombers.
And a Palestian source:
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Muslim Palestinians declare that the bodies of the shaheed, (soldiers who die in holy war), are unaffected by any taint and their souls go to paradise. Sheikh Hassan Yousef of Hamas pronounced, ��The keys to Heaven are not in the hands of Jewish settlers.�� |
Slightly nutty Palestinian source
The russians have done it in Chechnya, and what do you know, the war still goes on there. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
There's no bigger loser than a martyr that can't even blow himself up. I just got back home and don't know any details yet but it would be nice if these people that thought they were getting a free ticket out end up failing miserably. |
To quote from the daily mail:
"There was a man lying on the ground with his arms outstretched in a Jesus Christ position, lying on top of a medium-sized black and green rucksack," passenger Abisha Moyo, 28, told the Daily Mail newspaper.
"I went up to him and said 'are you alright, mate', but he just ignored me and kept his eyes shut."
wonder how long it took these idiots to realise they were still on planet earth? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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bucheon bum wrote: |
There are rumors it has happened in Israel, but contrary to what Rapier claims, it has not been effective.
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How do you know if the guy went to heaven or not?
seriously..it wasn't effective, because they stopped doing it on humanitarian grounds. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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did you read the links? My god man.
Suicide bombings have decreased due to increases in Israeli security, not because of some dumb pig thing. |
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