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EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT AMERICA......
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seoulmon



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT AMERICA...... Reply with quote

WOW! This cartoon sums up EXACTLY how I feel about America. It's freakin' so dead on it's FUNNY!

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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you really have your finger on the pulse of the American people...
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, when you have to equate your feelings with retarded, unoriginal cartoons, that can only mean one thing:



You're smart.
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sportsguy35



Joined: 27 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice to see a cartoon of your normal day, I am sure it would go something like this....

Good morning ___________ (insert where you are from) It's a beautiful day and Bush is still president. You still hate everything he does, because he is American and stands for his beliefs. __________(insert new problem here). Man, when are they going to get things right. Ahhhh, I wish my country was interesting, then maybe I wouldn't have to always look in the news of America to find more reasons to hate. Why is my life soooo boring?
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This cartoon sums up EXACTLY how I feel about America.


I'm not sure that the cartoon is really criticizing America per se. Apart from the main character, everyone else in the cartoon seems to be against the war, or at least have strong doubts about it.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
This cartoon sums up EXACTLY how I feel about America.


I'm not sure that the cartoon is really criticizing America per se. Apart from the main character, everyone else in the cartoon seems to be against the war, or at least have strong doubts about it.


The point seems to be that Americans are oblivious to reality. That an American can wake up, agree with a simplistic statement on the radio, and fail to acknowledge so much contrary evidence thrust into his face all day long...

While this may certainly describe some Americans that I know (and there are a lot of simplistic, flag-waving Americans in America), it does not account for "America," which is much more complex than this simplistic cartoon. That is, we're not a collection of mindless robotic people, even if the current president is an ideologue...
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What saddens me most is that this insipidly lame cartoon alludes to a movie that I thoroughly enjoy.

By the way, isn't there a thread for cartoons?


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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sportsguy35 wrote:
It would be nice to see a cartoon of your normal day, I am sure it would go something like this....

Good morning ___________ (insert where you are from) It's a beautiful day and Bush is still president. You still hate everything he does, because he is American and stands for his beliefs. __________(insert new problem here). Man, when are they going to get things right. Ahhhh, I wish my country was interesting, then maybe I wouldn't have to always look in the news of America to find more reasons to hate. Why is my life soooo boring?


Nice try. The op's American, from a red state in fact.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
This cartoon sums up EXACTLY how I feel about America.


I'm not sure that the cartoon is really criticizing America per se. Apart from the main character, everyone else in the cartoon seems to be against the war, or at least have strong doubts about it.


The point seems to be that Americans are oblivious to reality. That an American can wake up, agree with a simplistic statement on the radio, and fail to acknowledge so much contrary evidence thrust into his face all day long...

While this may certainly describe some Americans that I know (and there are a lot of simplistic, flag-waving Americans in America), it does not account for "America," which is much more complex than this simplistic cartoon. That is, we're not a collection of mindless robotic people, even if the current president is an ideologue...


Well the only person who thinks the cartoon is refering to Americans in general is the OP. I think the cartoonist is merely criticizing the simplistic ones out there.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
this insipidly lame cartoon alludes to a movie that I thoroughly enjoy.



...what movie?
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
flakfizer wrote:
this insipidly lame cartoon alludes to a movie that I thoroughly enjoy.



...what movie?


I feel pretty safe in saying that the movie alluded to is called GROUNDHOG DAY.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I just read it again. "Hello, McFly." Embarassed
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Emu Bitter



Joined: 27 May 2004
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been lucky enough to visit America on 3 separate occaisons, I'm married to one, & particuarly in my 5+ years in Korea,I've met a fair few.
It seems to me a bit bizarre that some people are so willing to stereotype a huge country, with a huge population with a multicultural tradition.
I'm sure John from Michigan who's heritage is German has the exact same view on life as Cajuns, New York Italians, First generation Americans of Mexican heritage from San Antonio, or immigrants from Korea, Japan or the Dominican Republic.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the cartoon as commenting on a stereotype. I think it's more about the image that people create about supranormal figures. Sometimes an image is so well crafted that people will only venture to believe so much to the contrary before they go back to the comfortable preconception they've always had. It takes a lot of momentum to change something like that. Who in Germany could believe that Hitler wasn't less than suprahuman? Who could possibly venture to believe that he was a good person now? G.W. Bush has the ultimate image created for him.

Was he sleeping on the job before 9-11? - No, it's just impossible to fathom the mind of a terrorist as evil as OBL.
Was Iraq a mistake? - Maybe, but at least he follows through with what he believes and that's commendable.
Does it matter that both he and the vp skipped out on Vietnam? - No, because he makes decisions with war on his mind now, and he thinks about Iraq *every day*.
Does it matter that he used to use cocaine and drive drunk? - No, because that was in the past and people can change for the better (this one I agree with though).
What about effectively authorizing the use of torture? - That's more Cheney and Rumsfeld's department, and they really know what they're doing.

IOW, there isn't enough momentum to believe that he's anything worse than a regular guy trying his best.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been driving me nuts for a couple of months: What the heck does 'IOW' mean?
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