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Nowhere Man
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| Your own sources don't single out the Pakistani community as particularly aberrant among Muslims in the UK. |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| What exactly do you mean by that? |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| The creative innovations of Paik Nam June have had great impact on the art world and he is widely recognized as a major world-class artist. Sarah Chang has also been widely acclaimed as one of the world's greatest violinists since she became very famous as a child prodigy... |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| The creative innovations of Paik Nam June have had great impact on the art world and he is widely recognized as a major world-class artist. Sarah Chang has also been widely acclaimed as one of the world's greatest violinists since she became very famous as a child prodigy... |
Well I stand down then.I must say youve knocked the wind out of my sails.I completely forgot these two "Giants" of the free thinking world.
Anyway i do retort.Its not the army that does it.
I asked 25 students today what they ate for breakfast...Rice and Kimchi was the answer i got 25 times...25 times!
Robots the lot of them! |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:05 am Post subject: ... |
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What exactly do you mean by that?
From your own article:
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| However, there are few signs in YouGov's findings that Muslims of Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin are any more disaffected than their co-religionists from elsewhere. |
But you selectively choose your hysteria, don't you?
If the stats don't match, then you start quoting the Koran (in a very vulgar fashion, no?).
You indict Islam and ignore the "peaces" that don't suit you.
Dialogue with you is worthless.
You have your conclusions, however narrow, and only seek to flog others with them.
Hypocrite. Bigot.
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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How is what you just posted related to the prevalence of racism in the Pakistani community? It's not.
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| If the stats don't match, then you start quoting the Koran (in a very vulgar fashion, no?). |
What do you mean by vulgar? If you find quotes from the Koran vulgar, then perhaps you need to reassess your attitudes towards this ideology.
And still persisting with the childish namecalling I see. |
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KiteOperations
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| First of all I dont know any of them.None of them are famous and none of them can be called world shakers....Im not talking about famous on the sports pages im talking about going down in history and rocking the boat. |
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| I completely forgot these two "Giants" of the free thinking world. |
well, well, well, i think your mummy is definitely a world shaker. because her son is a really piece of work.
and yes you're right you completely forgot to realise your lack of knowledge on art.
so, what's up? have you ever rocked the boat? even your class? |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| KiteOperations wrote: |
| waggo wrote: |
| First of all I dont know any of them.None of them are famous and none of them can be called world shakers....Im not talking about famous on the sports pages im talking about going down in history and rocking the boat. |
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| I completely forgot these two "Giants" of the free thinking world. |
well, well, well, i think your mummy is definitely a world shaker. because her son is a really piece of work.
and yes you're right you completely forgot to realise your lack of knowledge on art.
so, what's up? have you ever rocked the boat? even your class? |
I rocked my class today after all 25 of them told me that they all ate kimchi and rice for breakfast.I told them that Im rather partial to a boiled egg and toasted soldiers (sometimes).You see thats different...they cant deal with that because that is someone thinking individually.
And if you are wondering what they drink...its water....all of them. |
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KiteOperations
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| I rocked my class today after all 25 of them told me that they all ate kimchi and rice for breakfast.I told them that Im rather partial to a boiled egg and toasted soldiers (sometimes).You see thats different...they cant deal with that because that is someone thinking individually.And if you are wondering what they drink...its water....all of them. |
look, let me guess.
a. your kids are living in one orphanage all together.
b. your kids lack new vocabualry
c. they are actually robots as you said |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| The creative innovations of Paik Nam June have had great impact on the art world and he is widely recognized as a major world-class artist. Sarah Chang has also been widely acclaimed as one of the world's greatest violinists since she became very famous as a child prodigy... |
They are not famous by any stretch of the imagination. 98% of people in the UK would never have even heard of them. Tom Cruise is famous. |
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Nowhere Man
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| How is what you just posted related to the prevalence of racism in the Pakistani community? It's not. |
OK, where are your statistics on Pakistani racism?
In fact, all of your bigoted crap could be better supported if you supplied statistics on it rather than using your own anti-Islam interpretations of the Koran to prove points that you don't really prove about Islam as a whole. |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| OK, where are your statistics on Pakistani racism? |
I don't have any at the moment. But, then I never actually made the claim that Pakistanis were especially racist, even though based on personal experience, this is probably the case. There have been quite a few cases of Pakistani parents, and older siblings, murdering their daughters for dating, or seeking to marry white guys.
I was making the point that while murders by white racists inevitably lead to comments about 'the endemic racism' in UK society, attacks by Asian racists barely register in the national media, and hence, do not lead to investigations about the 'endemic racism in the Pakistani community'.
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| In fact, all of your bigoted crap could be better supported if you supplied statistics |
I have supplied statistics, in one case showing you, after you requested it, that a third of muslims wished for the overthrow of Western society, and that large sections of the muslim population sympathised with terrorists.
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| own anti-Islam interpretations of the Koran |
Once again I do not 'interpret' the Koran. I use quotations from it that back up the points I make. For example, I have earlier said that the Koran justifies wife beating, and have used verses from the Koran to substantiate my position. I try to keep interpretation and emotional arguments to a minimum, unlike your good self, who as a substitute for reasoned debate are reduced to personal abuse and childish insults. |
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