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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Yet another example... Reply with quote

of why Korea will never be considered as long-term/desirable. My friend hasn't been paid in over two months despite my advice that he should walk. He has been receiving one-fourth of his pay. The corrupt director says that he'll throw him on the street if he walks. I just don't understand how he can stay there and even remotely teach any classes well knowing that he will only receive a fraction of his pay and is getting deeper in lost wages. I've told him to go to the vaunted Labor office and they've told him that he has to wait for 3-4 weeks before anything can be done. Real helpful. His boss has also told him that he won't give a release letter. Bullocks. If you can't get help from people who are supposed to assist you in such matter, where can you go. These petty hagwon directors have way too much power here and the system boosts them in everyway. They have all the advantage. It is ridiculous. If he has the courage to walk, he'll have a place...but then what? He does have the option to get on the airplane and leave but he wants to stay in Korea. If only he would listen to me and tell the fucker that he won't work another second until his entire earnings are deposited..................
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop working for hogwons. Stop accepting employment offers from them altogether.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but this is a case of your friend being a sucker for punishment. OOOH the director says he'll throw him on the street if he walks- kind of an empty threat, don't ya think?, So long as the guy is actually qualified, I'm sure he can find a school that'll hire him and " help" with the letter of release.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the letter of release. All you need to do is fill it out, demand your director sign it...if they refuse you can submit it to the labour board and make a note that the hogwan refused to sign it.

About your buddy. Nobody can get walked on unless they lie down and ask for it.
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margaret



Joined: 14 Oct 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can his boss throw his out if he walks? Only if he tries to stay in his apartment--if he walks he can walk away from it too.
Margaret
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah they cant kick you out of your apartment for 30 days anyways
well legally they need to give you 30 days notice....but since when has legalities ever stopped a Korean?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Nobody can get walked on unless they lie down and ask for it.


Agree. The victim invites aggression. In the world of Korean hogwons, there are two types of people: users and used. As soon as you realize this you need to start using them for your own ends, or simply, walk away.

Hard to understand someone remaining at a hogwon for two or three months with threats to be thrown on the street and no pay...
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your friend is inviting aggression, he needs to give it back.
Going to the director with a list of demands and then telling him the case will be taken to the labor dept. for starters.
If the school can't pay your friend, it means the school is going to go under, if he's not getting paid then why is he still working,the school needs a FT, without it the school will go further down, what his director is doing is getting all he can from your friend untill he goes bust.
There are a lot of jobs available he should look for another.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over two months and only 25% of his pay? Damn is he hungry yet?

If he has not yet considered it, sometimes some buildings could use a good fire. (only half-joking)
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy is the quintessential tool. Act like him and hogwon directors will ride you like a Subic Bay bargirl.
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you meant Angeles City bargirl there Gwangjuboy... Subic Bay doesn't have quite the same rep.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
I think you meant Angeles City bargirl there Gwangjuboy... Subic Bay doesn't have quite the same rep.


Cheers for the heads up. Wink
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Gunnery Sergeant Hartman



Joined: 24 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
This guy is the quintessential tool. Act like him and hogwon directors will ride you like a Subic Bay bargirl.


So a guy who is following the letter of the law (following the advice of the Labor Board and working the required period before they can intervene) is a "quintessential tool", yet someone on another thread who blatantly flouts immigration law and gets busted shouldn't be chastised for... what reason again?

Honestly, some folk on here Rolling Eyes
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman wrote:
Gwangjuboy wrote:
This guy is the quintessential tool. Act like him and hogwon directors will ride you like a Subic Bay bargirl.


So a guy who is following the letter of the law (following the advice of the Labor Board and working the required period before they can intervene) is a "quintessential tool", yet someone on another thread who blatantly flouts immigration law and gets busted shouldn't be chastised for... what reason again?

Honestly, some folk on here Rolling Eyes



The person hasn't been paid in over two months and he is still there at the hakwon? After the first month he should have gone to the labour board. By now the 3-4 week period would have been over. You don't wait for more than two months before taking action. That is why I agree with Mr. Gwangjuboy that yes this guy is far too meek. Like I have said in the past. The number one thing that no one should forget to pack before they come here is a spine.
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