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rapier
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| huck wrote: |
How much could we do if we had more than a million years? |
that depends on us being able to live sustainably with earth without destroying it. So far there is little hope. Even now, most people still think knowledge and care of the worlds ecosystems is irrelevant. we are firmly alienated from the natural world and think nothing of wrecking and modifying it for short-term financial gain.
Some scientists give us 2 years to implement massive changes to stop global warming and environmental destruction. And then we may just pull through.
Others say we may already have passed the point of no return- damage is now irreversible and we are on a fast track to utter ruination.
It may happen before we have time to establish a colony of humans elsewhere. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| That's crazy talk for crazy people |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, definately. Nothing can be verified so it's running around in circles, loopy. For loopy folk.
In the materials though one astronaut apparently mentions that humankind was 'waved off' moonshots. Warned and sent packing. By aliens, apparently.
Yeah, whatever.
I remember reading books from the library which showed extensive moonbases. Artists conceptions of lunar stations for mining, launch, construction and support for further expeditions into the solar system and beyond. And for observatories.
The moon is three days travel from the earth.
It's been thirty years since anyone's been there. |
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yemanja
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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http://rael.org/
Keep in mind it's a just a con job to get the big guy rich and laid,
Still, I hear Raelian chicks are way open minded.
They do have branches in Korea.
U should be able to find a link on their site somewhere
Few interesting discussions going on here:
http://raelian.com/en/
I'm thinking of checking them out myself |
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yemanja
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| captain kirk wrote: |
I believe in UFO's, sure, but, like Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster and so on where's the hard evidence?
The Universe is vast, and that's a gross understatement.
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Well Loch Ness isn't so vast,
But I guess as far as Lochs go, it's a decent size. |
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yemanja
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think the day is too far when we humans wil be able to spot individual planets orbiting other stars. |
You're about ten years behind
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3856401.stm
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| The Hubble Space Telescope may have discovered as many as 100 new planets orbiting stars in our galaxy. |
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captain kirk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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[img]http://us.movie1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/what_planet_a[/img]
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captain kirk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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This is a photo of comedian Garry Shandling. He starred as the alien in the movie 'What Planet Are You From?'. When I see the leader of the Raelian cult's photo I'm reminded of this movie, which goes like this....
A highly evolved planet, whose denizens feel no emotion and reproduce by cloning, plans to take over the earth from the inside by sending an operative, fashioned with a humming, mechanical *beep*, to impregnate an earthling and stay until the birth. The alien, Harold Anderson, goes to Phoenix as a banker and sets to work finding a mate. His approaches to women are inept, and the humming phallus doesn't help, but on the advice of a banking colleague, he cruises an AA meeting, meets Susan, and somehow convinces her to marry. The clock starts to tick: will she conceive, have a baby, and lose Harold (and the child) to his planet before he discovers emotion and starts to care?
They both, the alien in the movie and the leader of the Raelians, have a spacey, whacky, gigalo look.
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yemanja
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| captain kirk wrote: |
I see the leader of the Raelian cult's photo I'm reminded of this movie, which goes like this....
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Spooky
I actually saw that movie on Korean TV a couple of weeks ago! |
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captain kirk
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Leader of the Raelians. It's like the comedy film is a spoof on the far out Raelian movement.
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sonofthedarkstranger
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| yemanja wrote: |
| sonofthedarkstranger wrote: |
| I don't think the day is too far when we humans wil be able to spot individual planets orbiting other stars. |
You're about ten years behind
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Um, no. I am aware that we are aware of hundreds of planets. I am talking about SEEING them. Or at least, having a good idea of what they are made of--not just how much they weigh and how close they orbit.
So far we have discerned their presence by observing stars dimming and wobbling. We know they have x mass. We don't know much else about them.
Also, those are immense planets, most of them many times bigger than Jupiter. The day I am referring to is the day we can discern other Earths out there. Places we can go and set up camp.
I am aware that my original comment left all that out and opened me up to the impression that I've been blissfully ignorant of all the developments in our knowledge of the Cosmos. Such is not the case.
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| Some scientists give us 2 years to implement massive changes to stop global warming and environmental destruction. And then we may just pull through. |
I'm just really skeptical that these guys have pinned it down to such a specific window of time, as in "2007 is the cutoff point." The processes in question here are big, messy and probably subject to a bit of chaos. The "cutoff point" is probably more of a cutoff zone, with hope gradually receding into ever more certain doom. I think there is a degree to which effects are inevitable, as well as a timeframe within which the earth will bounce back. As the one grows, the other shrinks. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| In 2014 we'll be able to image them directly. Right now we know of about 1500. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Grotto
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, definately. Nothing can be verified so it's running around in circles, loopy. For loopy folk. |
Kind of like religion then nest pa'? |
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