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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Charming dude...did you know he had a degree in architecture?!
Mohammed Atta
Born: 1-Sep-1968
Birthplace: Kafr El Sheikh, Egypt
Died: 11-Sep-2001
Location of death: New York City
Cause of death: Suicide
Remains: Missing, Ground Zero, New York City, NY
Gender: Male
Religion: Muslim
Ethnicity: Middle Eastern
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Terrorist
Level of fame: Famous
Executive summary: Mastermind behind the 9-11 attacks
University: BA Architecture, University of Cairo
al-Qaeda 9/11 Group Leader
Hijacking 11-Sep-2001 |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Atta Intelligence Omitted From Report
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The Sept. 11 commission knew military intelligence officials had identified lead hijacker Mohamed Atta as a member of al-Qaida who might be part of U.S.-based terror cell more than a year before the terror attacks but decided not to include that in its final report, a spokesman acknowledged Thursday.
Al Felzenberg, spokesman for the commission's follow-up project called the 9/11 Public Discourse Project, had said earlier this week that the panel was unaware of intelligence specifically naming Atta. But he said subsequent information provided Wednesday confirmed that the commission had been aware of the intelligence.
The information did not make it into the final report because it was not consistent with what the commission knew about Atta's whereabouts before the attacks, Felzenberg said.
The intelligence about Atta recently was disclosed by Rep. Curt Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services and Homeland Security committees. The Pennsylvania Republican has expressed anger that the intelligence never was forwarded by the military establishment to the FBI.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=Agxbflmb91UBVjymK6sNZHQDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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According to Weldon, a classified military intelligence unit called "Able Danger" identified Atta and three other hijackers in 1999 as potential members of a terrorist cell in New York City. Weldon said Pentagon lawyers rejected the unit's recommendation that the information be turned over to the FBI in 2000.
According to Pentagon documents, the information was not shared because of concerns about pursuing information on "U.S. persons," a legal term that includes U.S. citizens as well as foreigners legally admitted to the country. |
Why the US needs the Patriot act.
And of course the Patriot needs to be expanded to keep fascists like Jeff Rense followers out the US. |
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death from above

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Location: in your head
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Why the US needs the Patriot act |
Ha!!! |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Ok , the US government wants to do more harm to its own citizens then Al Qadia does.
Oh wait Al Qaida is fighting for a just cause , and they are very merciful. The reason the US hasn't been attacked is cause Al Qaida didn't want to hurt any more Americans .al Qaida is just misunderstood.
or is it that Al Qaida doesn't exist - it was just Bush who did 9-11  |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Read this fascinating account of the life of muhammad Atta.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/mohammed-atta/
"Atta instructed all 19 hijackers to shave off all of their body hair before the attack so they would be clean when they got to heaven."
"Atta's college classmates thought he was a nice guy."
Atta's misogyny deepened as he became further enmeshed in the workings of Islamic extremism. While in school, he'd displayed attitudes ranging from mild discomfort to outright dismay at the women he was forced to interact with.Various accounts described reactions to women running from disdain to disgust to outright hostility."
"Atta himself was sitting across the aisle from David Angell, executive producer of "Frasier." Perhaps they exchanged a few words about that cute little dog before Atta and his team pulled out knives'
"And know that the Gardens of Paradise are beautified with its best ornaments, and its inhabitants are calling you. And if . . . do not let differences come between you, and listen and obey, and if you kill, then kill completely, because this is the way of the Chosen One." |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Officer: Sept. 11 Panel Told Cells ID'd
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 17,11:13 PM ET
WASHINGTON - An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he told staff members from the Sept. 11 commission that a secret military unit had identified two of the three cells involved in the 2001 terrorist strikes more than a year before the attacks.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, who said he was associated with the "Able Danger" unit, said that during a 2003 meeting in Afghanistan, he mentioned that the unit had identified Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta along with three other hijackers as terrorist suspects.
The commission has denied that Atta's name or the name of any future hijackers were mentioned during the meeting.
Three months later, in January 2004, Shaffer said he was back in the United States and offered to follow up with the commission, but his offer was declined.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=AolBmmEzBJSe.y1a1oYnIFUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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The U.S. Intelligence Community has been firmly divided between foreign and domestic operations since 1947 because domestic intelligence activities tend to blur too much with law enforcement operations. Moreoever, serious rivalry in the community (CIA vs. Pentagon, MID vs. NIS, and, of course, CIA vs. FBI) is also explained by bureaucratic rivalry and mistrust. Is this a conspiracy?
People alleged "conspiracy" in the early 1970s in the aftermath of LBJ and Nixon's suspicions that the antiwar demonstrations were not home-grown but enemy intelligence operations. Nixon particularly asked CIA to infiltrate and investigate them.
CIA was consequently traumatized and decimated in 1975, which was in addition to Nixon's purges of it in 1973 (he forced approximately 7% of operations to retire or simply fired them).
Now, in the aftermath of 9/11, people are deciding that they want to criticize the intelligence community for not openly sharing intelligence information with each other -- intelligence that necessarily involved the domestic United States...
Could this simply be a decades-old problem that Americans have been unable to resolve (what if our intelligence service becomes a Gestapo!, many have feared) or is it just another conspiracy (they let 9/11 happen on purpose so that they could have their pretext to turn the intelligence services into a Gestapo!)?
What's the solution? Should they be able to freely exchange information with each other? |
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death from above

Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Location: in your head
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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this is off topic, but.. i read (i think in Der Speigel) atta left specific instructions in his will that no one was to touch his pe-nis during embalming.. sick sick puppy |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
fficer: Sept. 11 Panel Told Cells ID'd
By KIMBERLY HEFLING, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 17,11:13 PM ET
WASHINGTON - An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he told staff members from the Sept. 11 commission that a secret military unit had identified two of the three cells involved in the 2001 terrorist strikes more than a year before the attacks.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, who said he was associated with the "Able Danger" unit, said that during a 2003 meeting in Afghanistan, he mentioned that the unit had identified Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta along with three other hijackers as terrorist suspects.
[The commission has denied that Atta's name or the name of any future hijackers were mentioned during the meeting.
Three months later, in January 2004, Shaffer said he was back in the United States and offered to follow up with the commission, but his offer was declined.[/size]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=AolBmmEzBJSe.y1a1oYnIFUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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Shaffer said Able Danger identified Atta and three other Sept. 11 hijackers in 2000. But, he said, military lawyers stopped the unit from sharing the information with the FBI out of concerns about the legality of gathering and sharing information on people in the U.S.
"The lawyers' view was to leave them alone, they had the same basic rights as a U.S. citizen, a U.S. person and therefore the data was kind of left alone," Shaffer said.
Shaffer said he and a Navy officer disagreed with that and tried to set up meetings with the FBI, but each time the idea was rejected by lawyers from the Special Operations command.
"There was a feeling ... if we give this information to the FBI and something goes wrong, we're going to get blamed for whatever goes wrong," Shaffer said. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/sept_11_hijackers;_ylt=AolBmmEzBJSe.y1a1oYnIFUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Why the US needs the Patriot act. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
August 17, 2005 - Venice, FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker
Mohamed Atta was protected from official scrutiny as part of an officially-protected cocaine and heroin trafficking network with ties to top political figures, including Republican officials Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, and it was this fact—and not the ��terrible lapses�� of ��weak on terror�� Clinton Administration officials cited by Republican Congressman Curt Weldon—which shielded him from being apprehended before the 9.11 attack.
Weldon alleges that Pentagon lawyers rejected the military intelligence unit��s recommendation to apprehend Atta because he was in the country legally, and therefore information on him could not be shared with law enforcement.
But the ��terrible lapses�� cited by Weldon do not stem from the nonsensical assertion that Atta had a green card (he did not) which rendered him immune from military investigation but were the result of an officially-protected heroin trafficking operation being conducted on planes like those of Wally Hilliard, whose Lear jet flew "milk runs" down and back to Venezuela every week for 39 weeks in a row before finally running afoul of local DEA agents not been clued-in on the 'joke.'
Moreover the secret military intelligence operation which identified Mohamed Atta and three other hijackers as a threat a year before the 9.11 attack, called Able Danger, was by no means the first military intelligence investigation into the activities of the Hamburg cadre.
http://www.madcowprod.com/08172005.html |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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9/11 ringleader was 'identified' in early 2000: US Navy officer
Tue Aug 23, 1:10 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AFP) - A US Navy captain said that a top secret US Defense Department intelligence operation had identified Mohammed Atta a year before the Egyptian led the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington.
Navy Captain Scott Philpott said the top secret US program called "Able Danger" had identified Atta as an Al-Qaeda member in early 2000, according to Fox News.
"Atta was identified by Able Danger in early 2000," Philpott -- who worked on the program -- was quoted as saying in a statement to Fox News.
Philpott's statement appeared at odds with the Pentagon's position Monday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usattacksatta;_ylt=AvhhAzH4nuneaeMOYNSf2VMDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Mad Cow Morning News (Atta's girlfriend) 14:12
As his former gf testifies, he was indeed just another good Muslim who, among other things, enjoyed doing a LOT of cocaine & alcohol
http://www.madcowprod.com/My%20Web/test.wmv |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:42 am Post subject: |
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You're awful quiet on this thread now Joo. What's the problem?
I especially found the Hopsicker article helpful in shedding a little light on the matter. You don't mind the light do you?
Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
August 17,2005-Venice, FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker
Mohamed Atta was protected from official scrutiny as part of an officially-protected cocaine and heroin trafficking network with ties to top political figures, including Republican officials Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris, and it was this fact—and not the ��terrible lapses�� of ��weak on terror�� Clinton Administration officials cited by Republican Congressman Curt Weldon—which shielded him from being apprehended before the 9.11 attack.
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Top Republican figues? Katherine Harris? Jeb Bush? Wow ... who woulda ever guessed it, eh? |
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