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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: Koreans overseas who try and avoid other Koreans |
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I taught in Korea for a couple of years before moving back to Canada. One of the stereotypes about Koreans that I heard of is that they "always travel in packs" or "stick to their own" when living abroad.
However, last month I met a Korean family living here in New Brunswick. Since Korean immigrants are rarity here I took an interest in them (maybe the mother could make me some Gimbap! ). After talking to them for a while I asked if there were any other Koreans in the city. They said there were a few but they tried to avoid them. The son (who is in middle school) told me that a couple of Korean students at his school were always trying to get his family's phone number. I never dug any deeper but I found it odd that they were so determined to avoid other Koreans.
I have a Korean friend who lives in Japan now. She is interested in coming to Canada to study English. I told that Vancouver was her best bet but she said that she wanted to go to a city that does not have many Koreans. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Good!
That's the best way to learn English!
Conversely, avoiding other wegukin's in Korea is the best way to learn Korean.
So I shouldn't even be on this message board. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Avoid Vancouver like the plague if you want to learn english. |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Where would be a better place for her to learn English? She wants to stay in Western Canada. How about Calgary? |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I say Edmonton, they have a bigger University. Edmonton has a lot of cultural events. Edmonton is also much cheaper. I lived in both and I liked Edmonton a lot more. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Edmonton? Yeah, in the summer it's ok but freeze in the winter. Go to Calgary. Chinook baby!! |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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About the OP, I would wonder if there may be some religious or regional differences. Many Koreans objectify their neighbors and want to drag their asses out to church related activities in order to save them. Not to mention that both social and financial staus may play a part in this as well.
Can you delve into this a bit more? BTW, Which city are you in? (I'm also a herringchocker, BTW.)  |
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Hyalucent

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: British North America
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
Can you delve into this a bit more? BTW, Which city are you in? (I'm also a herringchocker, BTW.)  |
Yeah... I was wondering that to. My K-Gal and I are in Miramichi. I think she had met one other Korean lady in Moncton but beyond that... |
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The King of Kwangju

Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Location: New York City
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
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I've run into this a few times.
Nothing political or social about it - they just want a better shot at learning English without the temptation of hanging around Koreans.
Ironically, after spending years in small Canadian towns, they come away with the impression that Canada is "boring" and "full of old people." |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:09 am Post subject: |
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my husband learned english in canada (before i met him). he made a point of avoiding vancouver and toronto, in order to avoid koreans. he eventually chose ottawa. he was surprised that many of his fellow students in both his business school and english language institute were korean.
he really wanted to learn english because his family is poor and it was really hard for them to send him there, unlike a lot of his fellow students. so, he did not interact with his fellow korean classmates and when he did, he only spoke english (even though he wasn't very good yet). this earned his enemies, fast. they called him a traitor and one day they even surrounded him in a threatening manner.
we plan on moving and settling in canada one day, and he's made it clear that he does not want to be in a place with a large korean population. is there such a place??
don't get me wrong, he loves his country and his people, but he just doesn't like the attitude of koreans abroad. |
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: |
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we plan on moving and settling in canada one day, and he's made it clear that he does not want to be in a place with a large korean population. is there such a place?? |
Montreal.
Around 4000 Koreans there. Small community but access to all the Korean goods you need.
Best of luck. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:59 am Post subject: |
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this earned his enemies, fast. they called him a traitor and one day they even surrounded him in a threatening manner.
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Sounds like some of the Koreans in Canada are a lot like some of the Netizens on Dave's ESL Cafe! |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
About the OP, I would wonder if there may be some religious or regional differences. Many Koreans objectify their neighbors and want to drag their asses out to church related activities in order to save them. |
Never thought of that. It could very well be the case. I never really dug any deeper into this with the family because I consider it too private. I do know that the family is financially well of though. The mother is here with the two kids. The father is a businessman back in Korea. They fly home frequently for holidays.
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Can you delve into this a bit more? BTW, Which city are you in? (I'm also a herringchocker, BTW.)  |
Fredericton, NB. |
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catman

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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah... I was wondering that to. My K-Gal and I are in Miramichi. I think she had met one other Korean lady in Moncton but beyond that... |
The Miramichi! My mom's family is from up that way. That is crazy. How does she find the local folks? I imagine that it must be a unique Canadian experience for her. Much more than Vancouver or Toronto. |
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Hyalucent

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: British North America
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:46 am Post subject: |
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catman wrote: |
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Yeah... I was wondering that to. My K-Gal and I are in Miramichi. I think she had met one other Korean lady in Moncton but beyond that... |
The Miramichi! My mom's family is from up that way. That is crazy. How does she find the local folks? I imagine that it must be a unique Canadian experience for her. Much more than Vancouver or Toronto. |
For the most part she finds them friendly, but doesn't really have a lot in common with them. (She's not too keen on Canadian Idol or country music bars, although she did express an interest last night in playing TV Bingo.) She gets on well with a Japanese friend she's met, and gets along with my friends quite well; but there's just not a lot of people our age left in this city so it's hard to meet good friends. |
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