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Whats the best romance language to learn
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Most useful second romance language
French
52%
 52%  [ 11 ]
German
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Spanish
33%
 33%  [ 7 ]
Italian
14%
 14%  [ 3 ]
Other
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:54 pm    Post subject: Whats the best romance language to learn Reply with quote

I'm thinking of studying another language alongside korean, but i want one which is comparitvely easier (i am still struggling with the alphabet here).

So I'm curious which language do u believe to be the most useful after english?

French
German
Spanish
Italian

I'm going for Spanish atm as it is used in all of central and south america nearly. But I'm curious as to other's opinions. Also know any good books?

Chris
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There ain't nuttin' mo' romantic den ebonics yo...
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanish will get you by in N/S America, Spain, Portugal, and Italy (you can get by on basics in these 2 countries)....and learning Spanish ties in beautifully with Portuguese and Italian...very flexible...

My speaking Russian gets me by in Belarus, Ukraine, and a few other places....
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is nothing romantic about German!!!!

For me it has to be Italian. I've had to study French at school.... and did German too. Then it was italian at university. Comparing all of the above, Italian wins hands down.
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d503



Joined: 16 Oct 2004
Location: Daecheong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanish spoken as a primarily language in 21 countries, not to mention in the US.

I am pretty sure it is in the top 5 for most spoken languages,

not to mention that the spelling is much easier than french,
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well spainish it is then, it doesnt hurt that I wanna go exploring the south americas after my stint here.

So what books should i buy, anyone fancy a study meet in Seoul once every two weeks or summat?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
There is nothing romantic about German!!!!

For me it has to be Italian. I've had to study French at school.... and did German too. Then it was italian at university. Comparing all of the above, Italian wins hands down.


Yeah since when is German a romance language?

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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

German is a Germanic language, not a Romance (Latin based) language. I hear Romanian is the closest living language to Latin... and Romanian girls are supposed to be hot. I would vote for Portuguese myself. Brazilian Portuguese, I mean. That language sounds (to my ear) like a Spaniard trying to speak French. And I go for Brazilian girls.

Also think about Chinese. It's almost the easiest language in the world. The easiest language is supposed to be Indonesian, but I've never studied it, that's just what I've heard. The most difficult is supposed to be Finnish, which has 14 noun cases or some absurd number like that.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, 14 or 15. They actually make things easier once you get them down. The hard part about Finnish and Estonian is looking up words that have the cases already added to them because they're often quite different from the dictionary form.

Vesi - water
Mul on vett - I have some water. This is the partitive case which you have to learn for each word. If I looked up 'vett' in the dictionary I wouldn't find it; it would be like looking up 'ate'.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romance language - if you're looking for a useful one for travel and whatnot then learn Spanish. If you want to learn one close to Latin learn Romanian. If you're unsure and you're not going anywhere yet learn Interlingua (modern Latin). Yeah, I think Spanish is a good choice.

There's also Catalan and Occitan if you feel like learning a smaller one that won't be of much use outside a small region.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
It's almost the easiest language in the world. The easiest language is supposed to be Indonesian, but I've never studied it, that's just what I've heard. The most difficult is supposed to be Finnish, which has 14 noun cases or some absurd number like that.


Actually, there is no 'easy' language to learn.

I'm not sure Indonesian is the least complex language, but it does have several grammatical patterns that are easy to recognize. I think you're wrong about Finnish being the most complex language. Maybe it's the most grammatically complex European language. As far as I know, Javanese is recognized as the most complex language in the world because the users must decide which set of vocabulary to use (nouns, verbs, and adjectives) depending on the age and social status of the speaker and listener (if I remember correctly, there are 6 levels of speech...6 complete sets of words). Don't forget that grammar is only one part of language. You probably know from experience at work that studying grammar for 6 years won't make you a native speaker. Wink
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Romance languages
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Romance languages, also called Romanic languages or New Latin Languages, are a subset of the Italic languages, specifically the descendants of the Latin dialects spoken by the common people in what is known as Latin Europe (Italian/Portuguese/Spanish Europa latina, French Europe latine, Romanian Europa latină) as Vulgar Latin later evolved in different areas after the break-up of the Roman Empire.

So, German is out.
I speak Italian, French amd German and can say that Italian is the best romance language, but that is a biased opinion as I grew up there from the age of 4. French was easy to learn because of the Italian, but I also lived, and worked in Paris for 2 years. As for German, I was in Dresden for 3 years, where I first started teaching, and I can say that it is not an easy language to learn.
Which ever one you choose, buona fortuna, bon chance, viel gluck.
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, shows how much I knowI figured romance = english style alphabet! Very Happy

I think Spanish is the best one for me as I'm likely gonna end up in South America. How does it match up with portugese? Would I be able to comprehend it?

Interesting to see French score so highly, yet no ones justified why!
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you learn Spanish Spanish you will not understand spoken Portugese Portugese. If you learn Brazilian Portuguese you will undertsand most Latin American Spanish, which does not seem to contain the Castillian Royal lisp. Portugese grammar is tough, but the vocabulary has much in common with Spanish (and Italian, and to a lesser extent French).

Spanish grammar is supposed to be not too difficult.

All round, I'd go for Spanish, esepcially if you are American. If you are European, probably French which is spoken quite a lot as the second "international" langauge with most educated Europeans speaking it as their third language, after English. Of course.
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trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most useful after English I think will be Mandarin Chinese. Imagine being able to speak that language fluently in 5 to 10 years. Your marketability will be incredible.
I'd say Spanish is another good one and far far easier than Mandarin.
I was amazed at how much I learnt in a week of one on one classes.
I studied Indonesia for five years plus have spent a little over a year there. Compared to other Asian languages it's easy (Personally I still think Spanish is more so, though), but it's maybe not so practical as far as the small region of the world where it is used.
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