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Held Hostage in Korea for 13 years.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 6:49 pm    Post subject: Held Hostage in Korea for 13 years. Reply with quote

A fascinating account of some of the first westerners to make contact with Korea in the year 1666. A ship with Dutch traders was shipwrecked on the shores of Jeju Island.

What is fascinating is the reaction that the Koreans had to these foreigners and how the Koreans dealt with this intrusion. The Hermit Kingdom's policies regarding foreigners was so backwards. They didn't want other nations to know of their existence. I'm interested in your reaction to this article!

The journal of a Dutchman trapped in Korea
http://www.hendrick-hamel.henny-savenije.pe.kr/holland5.htm

A few excerpts to wet your taste buds!

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It was before noon, when we saw in the distance a human being at around a canon shot's distance away [500 mtr] from our tent. We beckoned him, but as soon as he saw us, he took to his heels.


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It seemed they liked the wine, because they drank that much that they became very cheerful and send our people back to the tent after they had shown and proved all friendship


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He (the governer) had them untied and had each given 25 blows on the bare buttocks with a stick which is about one fathom long and a finger thick at the bottom and round on the top


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requested (the king) passionately to let us leave to Japan.


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Upon this the king answered, again through Weltevree (a Dutchman who had been captured some 40 years previous), that this was not the custom of the country. Foreigners never received permission to leave the country.


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To the custom of the country he (the King) invited us accordingly to amuse him with dancing, singing and clownish behavior


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The Koreans... fooled us with telling us that every foreigner who sets foot on Japanese soil, immediately was beaten to death.


It is quite a long article and may take a while to read but well worth it. Fascinating story ... Trapped in the Hermit Kingdom!
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In which chapter do they establish Itaewon?
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: Away for a cuppa

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lemon wrote:
In which chapter do they establish Itaewon?


Chapter 14 - Our One And Only Regret Of Our Time In Korea
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(the King) invited us accordingly to amuse him with dancing, singing and clownish behavior


And thus was the beginning of ESL in Korea...
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(the King) invited us accordingly to amuse him with dancing, singing and clownish behavior


sounds like the first time i was dragged out to norae-bang
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denz



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: soapland. alternatively - the school of rock!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
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(the King) invited us accordingly to amuse him with dancing, singing and clownish behavior


sounds like the first time i was dragged out to norae-bang


i believe you meant to say "sounds like the first time i was asked to teach at a hagwon"

denz
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(Sajang-nim) invited us accordingly to amuse him with dancing, singing and clownish behavior
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wormholes101



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another funny excerpt:

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We were daily invited to appear for several great men, because both men and their wives as well as their children were curious to see us. Because the rumor had been spread that we looked more like monsters than like human creatures. It was being said that, when we wanted to drink, we had to put our noses behind our ears. And that our heads were best to be compared to the head of a sea cow


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...we couldn't show ourselves on the street or a crowd was following us, or people were surrounding us and were gaping at us.


Laughing Some things don't change
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henny is a bit of a strange cat.
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Dan



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, it is amazing just how little progress was made since 450 years ago.
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wormholes101



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone actually read the whole article?
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rapier



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Guus Hiddinck was the only one to escape back to Holland, even after offers of gold...
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gmat



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did read it all wormholes. Thanks it was great. What a story Smile .
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Trinny



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Henny is a bit of a strange cat.


Bulsajo, do you know Henny? What a small world!
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, very interesting. i read about half, enough to want to print it and try it as class material with a couple of middle school students.
they lucked out when they got a 'begging permit' for down in cholla to be able to buy winter clothes (their old clothes being worn out from hauling firewood). i liked the part, earlier, where he says they were rumoured to look like 'sea cows' about the face. and that those who had heard this description in advance were disappointed, perhaps, that they weren't as ugly as all that. and how a mob broke into their quarters and hauled them out for jeering and ridiculing at one night, until they complained to the king. after that folks knew not to make a fuss over them, and they could walk around without drama.


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