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roybetis1
Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Not near a beach like my recruiter promised.
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In public schools, aren't the Korean teachers required by law to be in the class? I know this is true in Japan. Something about not leaving the kids without a qualified supervisor.
Personally, I think that the KTEs have all been told by the board of ed that they are supposed to be "co teaching". If they want to sit in the back of the class and do nothing, fine, but I insist they come to class.. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Officially they are, but unofficially, the Korean teachers union has spoken out against the co teaching thing and has encouraged them to ignore/ avoid us because of a couple of violent episodes back in the late 90's, the first time the boards of education tried this idea. ( or that's what the guys at EFL law told me when I asked) |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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"Violent episodes"...
Hehehe, I'd love to hear what happened. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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"Violent episodes"...
Hehehe, I'd love to hear what happened. |
Probably some 6'4" wayguk showed an abusive little *beep* of a KT what it's like to be on the receiving end. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Re: the co-teaching, the advice to be prepared for anything has certainly held true. Have one co-teacher who's overly involved in the lesson, if anything. Have another really young guy who just started teaching this term, can hardly speak English and is totally depended on me - I even wonder how he teaches solo when I'm not there. For four of my classes there apparently isn't any co-teacher at all on the schedule. I'm just glad I'm not completely without resources and new to teaching. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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In theory, I think a co-teacher can be a great asset if they got involved in the lesson and were on the same wavelength as you. In practice in Korea, this hasn't been so. The co-teachers I've had the misfortune of working with have been seemingly more worried about losing face than actually letting the children learn anything or interact naturally.
How old are the kids Ya-ta Boy? |
I'll be teaching high school boys, mostly first and second year students. The good thing is I'll be seeing them 4 times a week. I've finally arrived and talked face-to-face with my co-teacher for those classes. She has set aside 10 minutes a day for pronunciation and says I can teach any way I like and that she wants to be 'like a student' during the portions where I teach. So far, the arrangement looks pretty good.
My first classes will be next Friday. I suggested we do a review of question forms by letting the students ask the new foreign teacher questions. She went for the idea.
So things seem good. Reality may be different when we actually start working in the classroom, though.
We have come across one of the grim realities of Korean language learning theory. Vocabulary. She has printed out 3 pages (double column, double spaced) words for the students to learn every week. She wants me to teach all three pages each week. I'm guessing that's about 90 words per week. Language ed authorities recommend not teaching more than an average of 7 words a lesson; I'm assigned to teaching 20+ a lesson. Anyone with a good solution to this would earn a whole pitcher of beer from me if they shared their idea with me. I just found this out late this afternoon and haven't had too much time to think, but so far all I've come up with is to identify those words with direct Korean equivalents and write out a few sample sentences demonstrating the usage of those words and spending class time on the trickier words that don't translate so easily. To this, I'd add a worksheet of completion questions to check for comprehension. I've still got to come up with a way to get them to make a new sentence with some of the words. Not too creative, so feel free to share your ideas. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: |
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I forgot one thing.
I like 'word maps', but 90 words is way too many to ask the kids to make maps of each week. I'd have a revolution on my hands. I will use them for a selected few words. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Another thing I've discovered already is that by the time a co-teacher has sat through the same lesson 3 or 4 times she gets pretty bored. Sitting in a desk with the students playing with her nails, doodling, and looking out the window sets a wonderful model of indolence. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Another thing I've discovered already is that by the time a co-teacher has sat through the same lesson 3 or 4 times she gets pretty bored. Sitting in a desk with the students playing with her nails, doodling, and looking out the window sets a wonderful model of indolence. |
I've been in this situation too, and it's tough. The good thing is that if you come across a good joke in the first or second class, you and your co-teacher can work it into some kind of routine and perfect it by the end of the day. That always amused me. If you just want to keep your co-teacher looking busier, maybe dream up some tasks for her, like handing things out, doing random check-ups on the students as they work, etc. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Another thing I've discovered already is that by the time a co-teacher has sat through the same lesson 3 or 4 times she gets pretty bored. Sitting in a desk with the students playing with her nails, doodling, and looking out the window sets a wonderful model of indolence. |
Why would you have your co-teacher sit through a lesson though? Give her some stuff to do. Maybe some back and forth? |
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NearlyKorean
Joined: 15 Mar 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I really liked this thread... I thought the infomation was useful...It sounds like most of you are teaching in the school as opposed to the after school program some of the school have...
I was offered an position in the after school program, but had to turned it down because of I could not permission from immigration. I am on a non E-2 and needed something to add to my income. So I am going to home for a while as I don't have a job (the company basic has gone into bankrupcty) and very little money left...
Do you have to be certified to teach in the schools? |
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