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elric · Joined: 24 Aug 2005

Most of it is legible english and follows efl-law specs. But. . .

Freezer Burn · Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Busan

Ask for a start and finish time, otherwise they can have you working from 7.00am for a business English class, and then onto 10.00 for an adult conversation class.

peppermint · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:

RE teaching hours- ask how long a class is, and wether that's considered a teaching hour" Some schools do this, many don't, but it's good to know either way. Also ask what might be the earliest morning class and the latest evening one. Split shifts can be awful, but some people make it work.

ubum · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Location: Gwangju

Grotto · Joined: 21 Mar 2004

6 days holidays is crap.
why settle for 4 less than the industry standard? 10 days is blessed little as it is.

In any contract you should have the work hours clearly stated.

2-8 Mon to Friday teaching 5-6 fifty minute classes a day.

Any teaching outside of these times will be paid out as overtime.

Dont sign ambiguous contracts its bad enough half the time without signing a contract allowing them to make it worse!

And to all the people who claim that the relationship you establish with your boss is so so much more important than the contract you sign... Razz

you dont get to meet you boss before you come over but you do get to peruse the contract before you come..,.iron out any discrepancies in the contract prior to coming over!

sheba · Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Here there and everywhere!

I agree... 10 is bad enough! I wouldnt sign for anything less!

They tend to leave the exact teaching hours out because your timetable can change. If their student enrolment increases then you may get an extra class or two... No big deal.... but yea, find out when you start and finish if you can. At the worst, I started an hour earlier than the Korean teachers (but that class has now merged anyway), but even at that I still arrived at the hagwon AFTER the Korean teachers had to. I never had a late class. The new classes are fit into my free hours during the day (I only had 3 free hours a week, and now its 2).

I guess the biggie is finding out if you are working split shifts, or have a big break between classes, thus having to stay at the hagwon ALL day... Id stay away from both.

ontheway · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:

If your school is reasonable and honest, you might be OK with this combined holiday and vacation mumb jumbo. But it's not clear at all and it doesn't say that you will be paid for these days. You should rewrite this clause into 2 clauses, and only sign the rewritten version:

something like this:

Holidays: The hogwan/school (use their term) observes and will be closed for all national Korean holidays which will be paid days off for the teacher (again, use their term).

Vacation: The teacher shall be entitled to six (6) paid vacation days per year. These shall be regular working days when the school is closed for winter vacation (3 business days) and summer vacation 3 business days). In the event the school does not close for a vacation, the teacher shall be entitled to alternative paid vacation days or a cash payment equal to 1/20 of one month's salary for each vacation day. Further, vacation time shall be deemed to accrue at a rate of one vacation day for every two months worked and shall be paid to the teacher in cash for any earned but unused vacation at the completion of this contract.

(I'm not a lawyer. So this is the best I can do. Hope it helps.)

Smile

peppermint · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject:

Guys, the paid holidays distinction is irrelevant. You're paid a salary of say 2.0 mil each month, for working up to 120 hours that month.
If you were getting paid by the hour, it wouold be worth clarifing, but it's not necesary when you get paid salary.

kprrok · Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC

ontheway · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:

I think one previous poster missed the point. The fact that you get paid monthly does not at all imply that you will be paid for holidays or vacations. They could be deducted on a pro rata basis just as when you arrive to teach in the middle of a calendar month and receive only 1/2 month's pay for that month. Further, under the OP's stated contract terms, the vacation days are not guaranteed to occur at all. They are lumped in as holidays which are not the same thing as vacation. If the school takes no vacation days the teacher gets no vacation days. And, unless the school is honest and ethical, no pay for the earned but unused days. Further the OP needs a provision to accrue vacation days in the event of working less than one full year.

As to the amount of vacation, it is typical for new workers to receive only 1 week paid vacation in their first year in many occupations and countries.

Good luck.

Son Deureo! · Joined: 30 Apr 2003