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julian_w



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:38 am    Post subject: severance pay legal necessity? Reply with quote

Can anyone say quickly as to whether the severance pay at the end of the first year is a legal requirement, or not?

or, supply the English-speaking phone service number at the Labour Dept. ...?

or both
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plattwaz



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the severance pay is a legal requirement, not just for foreign teachers but for all full-time Korean employees.

However, it's not a requirement that they give you one month pay at the end of one year. The payment is to be paid when you finish your contract. So, if you are staying MORE than one year, they don't pay you at the end of the first 12th months, but at the end of the contract. Anything longer than one year is pro-rated and added to the payment. So, if you stay 1year and 6 months, you get 1 month plus a half month of severance.

I have had friends whose employer DID pay them their one year severance at the end of the 12 months even though they were staying another year, but it's not required.

Sorry dont know the phone number you are looking for.
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1350
labour board English speaking direct line
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julian_w



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:39 pm    Post subject: My own question... Reply with quote

LABOR STANDARDS ACT

Act No. 5309, Mar. 13, 1997


Chapter II

Labor Contract


- Page 153 -

Article 34 (Severance Pay System)

(4) In cases where an employer has enrolled in pension insurance program for retirees or a retirement lump sum payment trust as prescribed by the Presidential Decree (hereinafter referred to as "pension insurance, etc.") for workers, whereby workers, as the insured or a beneficiary, receive lump sum payment at the time of retirement, or draw their pensions, it shall be deemed that the employer has set up a severance pay scheme in accordance with paragraph (1.) The amount of lump sum by the retirement insurance, etc., however, shall not be smaller than that of severance pay persuant to paragraph (1).
<Amended by Act No. 5473, Dec. 24, 1997>
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Len8



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto you seem to be in the know. Pray tell me can a university that has it`s employees on a private pension fund deny them severance in lieu of the fact that they will be getting a private pension fund lump sum instead.
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RachaelRoo



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that if the school has less than 5 employees they don't have to pay severance. Anyone know if this is true?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may nor may not be a legal necessity if, like most teachers, you're working less than 40 hours a week. The US embassy and the EFL Law Page seem to be at odds, however, on this claim:

US Embassy:

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SEVERANCE PAY (Taechikum)
The Embassy receives many inquiries and complaints about severance pay issues. It is a good idea to broach this subject early in your employment, and to be prepared for resistance. By Korean law, discussed below, all full-time employees, Korean or foreign, are entitled to receive severance pay of one month's salary for each year of employment. Employers cannot ask you to waive this, nor can they get around it by employing you on an 11-month contract. However, Korean courts have ruled that unless a Hakwon instructor actually TEACHES 40 or more hours per week, as spelled out contractually, he is NOT 'full-time' and is NOT eligible for severance pay.



EFL Law:

Quote:
(1) It is important to note that advice on the U.S. Embassy site that severance pay will not be paid is NOT correct. If you are working less than 15 hours a week, you are not entitled to Severance pay pursuant to Clause 3 of Article 25 of Labor Standards Act and Article 9 of the Regulations


I would tend to side with teh EFL Law page.
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Len8



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julian where did you get that informationabout the pension and seversance.
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
Julian where did you get that informationabout the pension and seversance.


She got it straight from the Labor Standards Act, which is available online, in English, at:
http://152.99.129.68:8787/law/law_list.jsp?code=A

that's part of the English version of the Ministry of Labor's website, the Korean version of which is at:
http://www.molab.go.kr

However, what Julian wrote is impossible to understand if you don't know how it is interpreted. While, a retirement plan can be set up in lieu of paying severance, there are specific qualifications that are stated for the kind of retirement plan that would exempt an employer from paying severance. As far as English teachers are concerned, the private school pension plan can exempt an employer from severance while the national pension plan does not exempt an employer from severance.
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koryo1



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US Embassy site (info from mindmetoo's post) is rubbish.

Full time work is not strictly determined by a 40-hour work week. That is a US-biased perspective on Korean law and a misinterpretation of Korean substantial and case-law.

Severance is severance and you get it. End of story, unless you are part of a minor exempted group. Groups that are exempted from most provisions of the Labor Act are those working at corporations / companies employing fewer than 5 people. Aside from this, you are entitled to a very comprehensive benefits package under Korean labor law, including vacation, monthly paid leave, severance, certain legal protection, etc.
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the National Pension Corporation told me is that the pension requirement kicks in at 18 hours per week. They said that less than that and you can be considered part-time and inelligible.
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Dawn



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though we were already paying severance, our accountant recently informed us that the fewer-than-five-employees proviso has been eliminated. Supposedly, all private institutes are now required to participate in severance, national pension and health care schemes.

Universities, however, are allowed to go with private pension programs in lieu of paying severance or paying into the national pension fund. Unfortunately for employees, the private pension programs generally cost universities a lot less and, in turn, put a lot less money in employees' hands at the end of a contract. (Had a university offer to match my salary a couple of years back, but their "match" would have cost me nearly W5 million a year in benefits.)
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Severance is severance and you get it.


That pretty much sums it up. As long as you work more than 18 hours a week you are entitled to severance.

A full time employee is not one who works 40 hours a week it is one who works 18 or more hours a week.

Besides to qualify for an E-2 visa you must be a full time employee. If you have an E-2 visa you are a full time employee...ergo you are entitled to severance.

At the end of a contract you should demand your severance for that year even if you are renewing....a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

I think some people are confusing severance with pension. Pension is accumulated per month...severance is paid out for every full year of service.

You collect pension when you leave the country...you get severance when you finish a year.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
Grotto you seem to be in the know. Pray tell me can a university that has it`s employees on a private pension fund deny them severance in lieu of the fact that they will be getting a private pension fund lump sum instead.

It appears that if a university is using a private pension scheme and not the national pension then yes, they don't have to pay you severance.
http://efl-law.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=937
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

superhero wrote:
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It appears that if a university is using a private pension scheme and not the national pension then yes, they don't have to pay you severance.


Once again...dont confuse the two. Pension is pension and severance is severance. One has nothing to do with the other!

When you finish a contract they have to pay you one months pay.....when you leave the country you can file to get your pension from the National Pension Fund(which is where both yours and their contributions should be.

Severance is paid directly from the school/uni/hogwan/whatever to you.
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