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Homer Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Quick question Veronica: how long have you been here? |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Privates |
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| Cohiba wrote: |
DON'T listen to these people. Privates are the only way to
make money in this country. Any other way just makes some
grease-ball hagwon owner rich. I have been a freelancer for
5 years and have never had any problems. You make your own
hours, your own vacations and if you don't like a class you can
dump them PDQ.
Most of the people who post on this board are the "nerds who sit
at the front of the class types" who give shiny apples to the teacher.
The rest of us in Korea, 99%, teach privates.
Current Rates for Privates:
Residential - 50,000W/hr.
Corporate - 100,000W/hr. for the first hour and 50,000W thereafter
Remember:
1/ Never give your real name.
2/ Never give your address.
3/ Never use a recruiter. |
Never consider making any oney doing privates.
You won't be making any money doing privates.
Privates are illegal.
HTH |
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Veronica

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
| Quick question Veronica: how long have you been here? |
Quick answer Homer: long enough to make that statement justifiably. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Very good veronica.
However, you do realize that things happen outside of your field of vision and that even if you do not see them, they do happen right?
Meaning, you have not heard or seen anyone doing pvts get fined or deported. I and many others have. Hence, by simple deduction, it is a real fact of life here and it can happen to someone who does pvt lessons.
Just because you did not withness anyone getting the boot it does not mean you should dole out advice that says that pvts are pretty much ironclad safe...just a thought here.  |
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magicwolfman
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree, this is a bad thread. I dont think this type of illegal activity should not be talked about or discussed. Do you think you could have this deleted homer? |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:00 am Post subject: |
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magicwolfman makes a good point. If teaching privates are illegal in Korea, the thread should no more be allowed on the forum than a discussion on where to score drugs. The moderators should remove the thread.
As far as I am concerned, if someone is teaching privates, they are skipping out on paying taxes that I, as a legal teacher, have to pay. If I find out you are teaching privates, I have no problems with turning you in to Immigration. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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magicwolfman,
Why would I have it deleted?
It is not up to me. Plus I participated in the thread so I cannot really mod it now can I....
Two different hats. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would wild sp..., er magicbo.., er, wack..., er, ummmm, magicwolfboy, want threads deleted? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Deleting threads that provide valuable information about illegal activities would be a bad idea. This information might help some people evade the law, that's true, but it will also convince others NOT to take the risk of law breaking and possibly even inform people of the existance of laws they were not aware of. I knew almost nothing about this when I came here.
What another poster said is true for me too, though: I don't know, personally, anyone who has been caught doing privates. But I have another story:
A woman, an adult student, with a daughter also attending our hogwan, came to the wonjangnim. She knew we were looking for a new teacher. She said she knew a wonderful American woman named *** who was a great teacher, used to teach her daughter private lessons at home, and really wanted to come back to Korea to teach. Great! But why did she leave? Why isn't she here now, jobs are easy to get?
"Oh, she was caught teaching private lessons and kicked out of Korea. Immigration won't let her come back. Maybe you can help her come back!" was her answer.
And, what do the parents do after a teacher is caught, fined, possibly jailed and deported?! They find a NEW private teacher. |
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Veronica

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
As far as I am concerned, if someone is teaching privates, they are skipping out on paying taxes that I, as a legal teacher, have to pay. If I find out you are teaching privates, I have no problems with turning you in to Immigration. |
I too, as a legal teacher pay taxes. Only my school, which has about 175 teachers, also has a very good accountant. Therefore, my tax, last month, was 3,700 won. Where does that leave me, in your opinion, about not paying taxes? |
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Manner of Speaking

Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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If someone is working illegally on a tourist visa, they are paying zero taxes into the system on their earned income. It's the same as taking the subway every day and jumping the turnstile to avoid paying the subway fee.
If you are working legally, and doing privates "on the side", then you are a) violating your work visa, and b) not paying taxes on your illegal income. Although it's on a smaller scale, what you are doing is equivalent to running a legitimate business through the front door for which you pay and report all your taxes, and running an illegal bootleg operation out the back door, for which you report none of your income at all. Regardless of whether or not you are paying taxes on the legal portion of your income, what you are doing is still income tax evasion. You're breaking the tax laws as well as the immigration law. |
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Veronica

Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| magicwolfman wrote: |
| I agree, this is a bad thread. I dont think this type of illegal activity should not be talked about or discussed. Do you think you could have this deleted homer? |
What a stupid comment. "This is a bad thread, illegal activity blah blah blah." Grow up man.
What the average hakwon owner either has done, is doing or will do to his/her foreign teachers is also illegal, yet those topics are always discussed. People staying outside of their visa status is also illegal, but is also discussed. People teaching privates is illegal but is also discussed. This isn't a board where only legal things are talked about. It is a board where topics that are pertinent to people living in Korea are discussed.
"Oh. It's raining. I don't like that. So I won't go to work today."
Jeeeeeeesus. Get a spine man. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Veronica wrote: |
| magicwolfman wrote: |
| I agree, this is a bad thread. I dont think this type of illegal activity should not be talked about or discussed. Do you think you could have this deleted homer? |
What a stupid comment. "This is a bad thread, illegal activity blah blah blah." Grow up man.
What the average hakwon owner either has done, is doing or will do to his/her foreign teachers is also illegal, yet those topics are always discussed. People staying outside of their visa status is also illegal, but is also discussed. People teaching privates is illegal but is also discussed. This isn't a board where only legal things are talked about. It is a board where topics that are pertinent to people living in Korea are discussed.
"Oh. It's raining. I don't like that. So I won't go to work today."
Jeeeeeeesus. Get a spine man. |
He's a troll and a sock, please don't even respond- it just encourages him. |
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magicwolfman
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Veronica wrote: |
| magicwolfman wrote: |
| I agree, this is a bad thread. I dont think this type of illegal activity should not be talked about or discussed. Do you think you could have this deleted homer? |
What a stupid comment. "This is a bad thread, illegal activity blah blah blah." Grow up man.
What the average hakwon owner either has done, is doing or will do to his/her foreign teachers is also illegal, yet those topics are always discussed. People staying outside of their visa status is also illegal, but is also discussed. People teaching privates is illegal but is also discussed. This isn't a board where only legal things are talked about. It is a board where topics that are pertinent to people living in Korea are discussed.
"Oh. It's raining. I don't like that. So I won't go to work today."
Jeeeeeeesus. Get a spine man. |
Ahhh, the whole EVERYONE is doing it, so I can do it arguement. Just because people do it does not make it right. I am very sorry that you see the law in so many shades of gray. The facts are that it is illegal here and illegal in most every country in the world. The facts are that it is tax evasion and thus wrong. This might be a message board about imformation pertinent to korea, but I dont think it should have imformation that is illegal to life in Korea. |
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magicwolfman
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
magicwolfman,
Why would I have it deleted?
It is not up to me. Plus I participated in the thread so I cannot really mod it now can I....
Two different hats. |
Well hurry up and change that hat and get it done.  |
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