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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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 Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: Teachers from Japan will be coming here in droves? |
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I read this on that efllaw site,
"An e-mail in today from an Insurance company exec' about changes coming up for Japan...
""...we are having some great problems in Japan now with the government doing a big knee jerk. They are realizing that with the growing population that they are going to run out of money soon, so they are targeting foreign schools trying to force everyone into the National and Social system.
This will cause a number of schools to close and foreigners to leave Japan as it will be too expensive to live. For a teacher making 250,000 yen per month the government will take 30,000 yen for insurance and pension. The company will also contribute 30,000 yen per month as it is spilt between the employee and employer. ALT companies are struggling as it is as the School boards are receiving smaller budgets for this year on year on. For a company with 140 teachers this will take any profit they are making and eventually force them to lower salaries or shut their doors." "
Does this mean our job market might be flooded with teachers from Japan soon? |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| I doubt it. Korea has been a better deal moneywise (for most) for quite some time, but people go to Japan because that's where they'd rather be, or they want to avoid the hassles that inevitably come with working here. |
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cellphone
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| I would simply doubt it because it came from that efl-law website. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't totally discredit it, nor would I discredit the number of people able to teach in Korea coming from the devestated states of the US, if there isn't work there for them.
I may be wrong, but no job vs a maybe, however bad the conditions maybe is still a possibilty. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| I doubt it. Korea has been a better deal moneywise (for most) for quite some time, but people go to Japan because that's where they'd rather be, or they want to avoid the hassles that inevitably come with working here. |
Good point. I don't know anyone that teaches in Japan to bank large amounts of cash. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I know for a fact that the brothers with an asian fetish can have a jammin' good time there, if you catch my drift. Do you think the lure of easy sex in Japan might keep some there? |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| Since when did a growing population equate to less tax revenue? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Since when did a growing population equate to less tax revenue? |
Japan's population isn't growing. Maybe it's a mistake and they meant slowing. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| nor would I discredit the number of people able to teach in Korea coming from the devestated states of the US, if there isn't work there for them. |
How many of them have passports? |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
| nor would I discredit the number of people able to teach in Korea coming from the devestated states of the US, if there isn't work there for them. |
How many of them have passports? |
But yawl-ns' gotta see dat dem folks from the dixie wheren's dat deesaster did occur is some of the most highliest regarded inglash speakers in the whole continent of USA. |
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numazawa
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| Since when did a growing population equate to less tax revenue? |
Japan's population isn't growing. Maybe it's a mistake and they meant slowing. |
I think the keyword is "aging." |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| pest2 wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
| nor would I discredit the number of people able to teach in Korea coming from the devestated states of the US, if there isn't work there for them. |
How many of them have passports? |
But yawl-ns' gotta see dat dem folks from the dixie wheren's dat deesaster did occur is some of the most highliest regarded inglash speakers in the whole continent of USA. |
It wood be gooood not to make foon of the yanks when there are so many Canadians ooot and aboot. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Advice~~ Never confuse a southerner with a northerner, never call someone from the south "a yank"
That might start a fight or three |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, so we're all the same to them but we have to care about their historical differences. A Yank is a Yank, the South lost. |
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Kenny Kimchee
Joined: 12 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
| I doubt it. Korea has been a better deal moneywise (for most) for quite some time, but people go to Japan because that's where they'd rather be, or they want to avoid the hassles that inevitably come with working here. |
You're somewhat right, right, and right. I did two years in Korea and am now starting my 3rd year on JET in Japan. JET is a good deal - I net the equivalent of 2.7 million won a month (3 million won salary - 100,000 won rent [majority is subsidized] - 400,000 deductions + 200,000 pension refund/month when I leave). Hogwans are a crap deal over here - NOVA drones get 2.5 million won gross a month less deductions (about 300,000) and rent (gotta pay their own - average about 500,000/month), so they net about 1.7 million/month once/if you factor back in the pension refund.
I don't know anything about this pension business in private schools. Us JETs contribute to the pension, but up to 3 years are refundable once you cancel you ARC - I'm assuming that the private schools operate under the same rules?
In any case, I wouldn't be too worried about a mass exodus to Korea. People come to Japan because they're into the language/culture (how many Japanese language/culture majors have you known vs. Korean majors?) or they buy into the "easy nookie in Japan" myth. Most teachers over here are terrified by the Korean horror stories they hear.
I might come back to Korea after I finish here. I'm looking for a good gig after I finish JET but they're hard to come by and I'll be damned if I'll work for NOVA. It'll be a tough transtion, though - going from a country where you're treated like a minor celebrity to one where you're treated like a pariah... |
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