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Should we correct each other's grammar?
YES
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NO
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Correcting grammar mistakes by Dave's posters Reply with quote

Some of us do it, some of us don't. Some say "So what?" Others say "If you're teaching English here your grammar should be up to standard."

What do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar...or not?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make allowances for typos.

Send pms to graciously suggest corrections of particularly noticeable spelling and/or grammar mistakes when you can.

Do point out persistent and uncorrected problems. But don't get too preachy, as we are all prone to err.

Do, however, pounce on preachy writers with chronic patterns of atrocious spelling and grammar mistakes. Wink
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Bo Peabody



Joined: 25 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some of us do it, some of us don't. Some say "So what?" Others say "If you're teaching English here your grammar should be up to standard."

What do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar...or not?



Some of us do it while some of us don't. Some say, "so what?" Others say, "if you're teaching English here, your grammar should be up to the standard."

What do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar or not?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo Peabody wrote:
Quote:
Some of us do it, some of us don't. Some say "So what?" Others say "If you're teaching English here your grammar should be up to standard."

What do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar...or not?



Some of us do it while some of us don't. Some say, "so what?" Others say, "if you're teaching English here, your grammar should be up to the standard."

What do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar or not?


Some do; some don't. "So what?" some ask. Others insist that if you're an English teacher, your grammar should measure up to professional standards.

But what do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar?
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Bo Peabody



Joined: 25 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Some do; some don't. "So what?" some ask. Others insist that if you're an English teacher, your grammar should measure up to professional standards.

But what do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar?


I like your style better, Gopher. I'm horrible with grammar but check this out:

Some headz be doin' it an' some ain't even care 'bout dat - They be all up in yo grill like, "so wut?" Other kids are maad like, "yo youse be teachin' English ova here, yo u best be usin' dem propa gramma n' shieet, 'kna mean?"

So wat u think dog? We be correctin' each other n' all dat?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo Peabody wrote:
Gopher wrote:
Some do; some don't. "So what?" some ask. Others insist that if you're an English teacher, your grammar should measure up to professional standards.

But what do you think? Should we correct each other's grammar?


I like your style better, Gopher. I'm horrible with grammar but check this out:

Some headz be doin' it an' some ain't even care 'bout dat - They be all up in yo grill like, "so wut?" Other kids are maad like, "yo youse be teachin' English ova here, yo u best be usin' dem propa gramma n' shieet, 'kna mean?"

So wat u think dog? We be correctin' each other n' all dat?


Laughing
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo Peabody: I agree with your correction of the comma, but not about the caps (or capitals, if you prefer!). I'm quoting, so the first letter in the " " should be capitalized.

While I agree that we should teach REAL English to our students, I also think that they should have a good grounding in grammar. Many, if not all, of our students will be taking the TOEIC exam and they REALLY need to know their grammar for this test.

Gopher has the best suggestion...(and these are called "ellipsis:

Quote:
1 a : the omission of one or more words that are obviously understood but that must be supplied to make a construction grammatically complete b : a sudden leap from one topic to another
2 : marks or a mark (as ... or �� or --) indicating an omission (as of words) or a pause
m-w.com)

to politely PM a person who consistently makes grammar errors. Sure, typos happen, but using the wrong tense doesn't reflect well on the level of teachers here.
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Bo Peabody



Joined: 25 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
Bo Peabody: I agree with your correction of the comma, but not about the caps (or capitals, if you prefer!). I'm quoting, so the first letter in the " " should be capitalized.


Oops! You're quite right, ajuma. Please note that this unusual error on my part is not indicative of my general knowledge of the English language. I'm sorry!

ajuma wrote:
Gopher has the best suggestion...


I agree with Gopher's suggestion too.
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've highlighted people's mistakes in the past, but only when then have seen fit to ridicule other's for their mistakes while making a blunder themselves.

Otherwise leave it alone. While this may be a forum for ESL teachers it's still just a discourse community whose predominant function is to communicate, not correct other people's grammar/spelling mistakes.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a modest proposal:
I think it should be like Germany's Good Samaritan Law- if you're the first person on the scene you must stop and render assistance or risk being thrown in jail.

I think the mods could easily implement this- if it is discovered that a post after a post containing errors does not itself contain corrections of said errors then the user of the second post shall be handed a temporary ban; HOWEVER, if it can be proven that the user who created the original post with the errors did in fact deliberately create these errors with intent of causing a subsequent user to run afoul of these rules by omitting the neccessary corrections in their post, then the second user shall be handed a temporary ban as per the first part of this sentence while the first user shall receive a lifetime ban (or multiple lifetime bans if the user is of the Hindu or Buddhist faiths).

Typographical errors shall be ignored. The determination of whether any error is typographical or not shall be handled by an independent and non-partisan panel of no less than 11 ESL or EFL instructors who hold MA degrees or higher. The moderators shall abide by the panel's decisions on any given error unless there is a 50% +1 majority consensus among moderators to overturn the panel's decision.

Pretty simple and straightforward, wot?

So, whaddya say?






It'd only take what- 30 or so more moderators?
No problemo.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote for Bulsajo's solution.
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its [it's] the jungle baby and if you ain't capable of standing the heat, make like a tree and get out of here
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are grammatical slips, typos, and drunken rants, and then there are some 'English teachers' who couldn't write a grammatical sentence to save their lives. If they're just babysitters at kiddie hogwans who like to post on other fora about living in Korea, it's not such a big deal; but when they're offering advice on teaching, it's very hard to take them seriously.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definately rediculus!
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Sliver



Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh and what about trying to promote input from non native speakers?
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