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Whitie can speak Korean!? Impossible!
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ladyandthetramp



Joined: 21 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Whitie can speak Korean!? Impossible! Reply with quote

I know this has been brought up before, probably by me, but after two years here I'm getting really annoyed by this.

I'm studying to become a certified Korean language teacher (Korean version of TESOL), and we pretty much have two different professors come in every day. A few have asked where I'm from or other such questions, which although I'm sure will get annoying after the 20th time, is acceptable...well, not really.

Today's instructor talks for about an hour about bilingual instruction and then begins to use an English example. At this point, an hour into a class conducted in Korean, she looks at me and asks, in English, "Can you speak Korean?"

Wtf is that? This is the third or fourth week of class to become a Korean teacher, conducted in Korean, and an hour into it she assumes that the whitie can't speak Korean.

The other students in class were surprised that I speak Korean. These are students who want to become Korean teachers, yet apparently think none of their students will ever speak Korean.

What's more, I'm sick of the "Can you read Korean?" question by everyone, including people who have spoken Korean with me and know that I graduated from Yonsei's Korean program.

It seems that even if you prove to them that you can speak Korean, they still can't believe that a non-Korean can speak �츮 ��.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Whitie can speak Korean!? Impossible! Reply with quote

ladyandthetramp wrote:
These are students who want to become Korean teachers, yet apparently think none of their students will ever speak Korean.

That's just too funny.

Next time someone asks you that question, reply with a straight face
"No, I'm completely faking it. Don't blow my cover, okay?"
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's just too funny.


No it isn't.

Look, keep on working hard and even after you can speak fluently, some one will probably insult you to your face and say you can't speak their language and are making it up. Look, let it go, they are idiots.
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shakuhachi



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just reply that you can read and write Korean. Be confident.
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kimchikowboy



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the times I've been in a classroom of Korean teachers of English where none of them actually spoke any English, I would say it was a legit question.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Whitie can speak Korean!? Impossible! Reply with quote

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Next time someone asks you that question, reply with a straight face
"No, I'm completely faking it. Don't blow my cover, okay?"

For a bit of a change up, say it in Korean with an exaggerated Kyongsando accent.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you use chopsticks?
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wwidgirl



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:07 am    Post subject: same thing Reply with quote

I've had people assume that I can't speak English because I look asian (well I am asian). Don't take it too personally. But yeah it can definitely be frustrating.

And of course Koreans assume I speak Korean because I look Korean (well I am korean).
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to say things like (in Korean) "No, I can't. Wow, your English listening is great!" or "No, I can't, we are communicating through telepathy" (�̽����� in case you'd never learned that one before). If I was in your shoes (your program) I'd probably say (still in Korean) "No, you don't need to speak or read or write Korean to teach it. It's a really easy job."

If people are acting like that to you, I really am wondering what the requirements for entry to the program are!
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
If I was in your shoes (your program) I'd probably say (still in Korean) "No, you don't need to speak or read or write Korean to teach it. It's a really easy job."

OH! That's it! The perfect comeback.
I'm humbled.
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bulgogiboy



Joined: 12 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, I can understand a stranger in a bar asking you that question, or one of your students, but you're enrolled in a Korean teaching course-that's crazy! Maybe the teacher's just plain stupid...?

Having said that, it probably doesn't help that the average ESL expat in Korea can barely(if at all!) string a sentence together in Korean after 1,2,3,4+ years in the country. I think Koreans have gotten so used to bone-idle, excuse-making whities not being able to speak even basic Korean that they just assume none of us can(they're usually right). You're obviously just being judged because of the poor attitutide of others. Don't give up though! You get nothing but respect from me!

I love studying foreign languages when I'm living abroad. It makes life easier, it's a challenge, it gains you respect(for the most part), and it's fun to speak foreign languages! I don't know why more ESL teachers don't do it, I think it's a rewarding experience. There are 6 billion people in the world and a significant percent of them can't speak English, so sometimes you have to do the unthinkable...
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey go to Incheon... or some other hickville. I thought this was a joke until I experienced it: some of the taxi drivers cannot read hangul.

Honestly. I pointed to the sign " yeah jick jin ga say yo" but the guy could not read the sign Exclamation

True!
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulgogiboy wrote:
it probably doesn't help that the average ESL expat in Korea can barely(if at all!) string a sentence together in Korean after 1,2,3,4+ years in the country. I think Koreans have gotten so used to bone-idle, excuse-making whities not being able to speak even basic Korean that they just assume none of us can(they're usually right). You're obviously just being judged because of the poor attitutide of others.


Hey, some of us haven't learned Korean because we simply don't want to. I speak Chinese, and intend to work and study in China in the future. Korean is a waste of time, I only take a class now because I was too bored in my mornings and thought it would be a good way to meet Japanese girls (and I was right, BTW).
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:

Hey, some of us haven't learned Korean because we simply don't want to. I speak Chinese, and intend to work and study in China in the future. Korean is a waste of time, I only take a class now because I was too bored in my mornings and thought it would be a good way to meet Japanese girls (and I was right, BTW).


Lame response. I might live in China the rest of my life, it doesn't mean I am going to stop learning Korean vocabulary now! Why would it be a waste of time... after all, I'm here! Why would you come here if you intend to be in China? It's not like you can't find 10,000+ RMB per month teaching jobs in China these days. Couple that with the cost of living and you save more there than here. (Of course those jobs are highly competed, being that the average job is still around 5,000 or what not-- I don't know if you have what it takes to get the good jobs).

And why do you want to meet Japanese girls if you are so into China? Why not try to meet some Chinese girls? (Heck, I have a class at 10 (this morning) with about 10 Chinese women in it, and only one is married).
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cedar wrote:
Lame response. I might live in China the rest of my life, it doesn't mean I am going to stop learning Korean vocabulary now! Why would it be a waste of time... after all, I'm here! Why would you come here if you intend to be in China? It's not like you can't find 10,000+ RMB per month teaching jobs in China these days. Couple that with the cost of living and you save more there than here. (Of course those jobs are highly competed, being that the average job is still around 5,000 or what not-- I don't know if you have what it takes to get the good jobs).

And why do you want to meet Japanese girls if you are so into China? Why not try to meet some Chinese girls? (Heck, I have a class at 10 (this morning) with about 10 Chinese women in it, and only one is married).


Really? Introduce me to the pretty ones?

Unfortunately I can't save enough in China. Part of the problem is that money isn't convertible so you can't send home most of your earnings. The plan is to save up a year's worth of student loan + debt payments here, then go work for a year in China and try to find a permanent decent-paying job there.

Anyway, you're right, I am studying Korean "because it's there" and I've got nothing to lose. But I don't consider it important, and I might drop it for a Mandarin class next month. I found a nice Chinese hagwon in Gangnam near where I study Korean every day.
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